What is the difference between the PN441V2 PAM441 (VSF) versus the PN441SLE PAM441 (SBF)?

[lceniza]

Hey Guys,

Quick question: What is the difference between the PN441V2 - PAM441 (VSF) versus the PN441SLE - PAM441 (SBF)?
If VSF and SBF are the same company, is this technically the same exact product?

Or are there any distinguishing differences between the two?

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I just ordered the PN441V2 PAM441 (VSF) from Andrew/Trusty.

 

[Kup1712]

SBF should be the new VSF and the SBF pam441 is the first “official” pam rep from SBF.
If I am not mistaken, it should be the same watch.

 

[Kup1712]

SBF should be the new VSF and the SBF pam441 is the first “official” pam rep from SBF.
If I am not mistaken, it should be the same watch.

Edit: sbf should have working power reserve seen on the back of the watch.

 

[lceniza]

Edit: sbf should have working power reserve seen on the back of the watch.

Hey Kup, so you're saying the SBF is actually the better version? Sucks that I actually ordered the VSF, and it was $60USD more.

 

[Kup1712]

Think so, but better ask @KOT1917 and look on the forum for:
pam441 [tyf]

 

[lceniza]

Think so, but better ask @KOT1917 and look on the forum for:
pam441 [tyf]

What is "tyf"?

 

[Kup1712]

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