What are the Best Reps to buy that are still available for purchase in 2025. (Anyone cares to opine?)

[SeniorChief]

I'm curious to learn your thoughts (especially from the rep experts) on which Rep. reference watch(es) are the best made ie closest in aesthetics to their respective Gen which are mechanically sound and have given you years of satisfactory performance (regardless of brand). Thank you.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Seriously?

I'd suggest reading the forum.

 

[SeniorChief]

Seriously?

I'd suggest reading the forum.

Ok, maybe not the best written post from a newbee and I can delete if people believe the question is too general or not useful. Or people can just ignore it and move on.
I've read quite a bit in this forum and throughout the RWI site and while there is always much talk about which rep is 1:1, which movement is closest to a "looking" like a gen (I honestly do not believe there are any such made 1:1 reps) and while Ive gathered the Asian 2813 is one of the worst I don't see very much discussion on which reps are mechanically the soundest in function and best reproduction aesthetically in one "package" regardless of the brand.
Perhaps I've not been looking in the right places.

 

[Reaps]

Ok, maybe not the best written post from a newbee and I can delete if people believe the question is too general or not useful. Or people can just ignore it and move on.
I've read quite a bit in this forum and throughout the RWI site and while there is always much talk about which rep is 1:1, which movement is closest to a "looking" like a gen (I honestly do not believe there are any such made 1:1 reps) and while Ive gathered the Asian 2813 is one of the worst I don't see very much discussion on which reps are mechanically the soundest in function and best reproduction aesthetically in one "package" regardless of the brand.
Perhaps I've not been looking in the right places.

Instead of looking at the best models, look at the watches you're interested in.

In general the Rolex models are a step above the rest. Panerai, AP, have some good ones. So do IWC.

Here's a basic Excel compiled for you that is semi updated but there are many nuances.

Post in thread '[CONSENSUAL LIST] Super Reps NWBIGs' https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/consensual-list-super-reps-nwbigs.308081/post-11975699

As Art said you should learn to do research. There are hundreds of threads and your questions have been answered 100x before.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I've read quite a bit in this forum and throughout the RWI site and while there is always much talk about which rep is 1:1

I'm yet to find one respected member on RWI ever refer to a rep being 1:1. Such a rep does not exist. The watch will be 1:1 when the price is 1:1.

Each factory producing reps have their own strengths and weaknesses. What you regard as a major flaw, i may be ok with - 'best' is subjective.

For the major brands and references there are many direct comparison threads comparing rep against genuine. This is a great starting point to begin your own research and form your own opinions on which piece you plan to buy.

Let me get you started: https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/submariner-126610ln-gen、vs、clean、king-ew-comprehensive-comparison.10961615/

These threads are very popular and you should be able to find them quickly as they typically sit near the top of each brand sub forum. Alternatively throw your query into Google and add "RWI" at the end. I find it easier to search this way.

FYI - Your question is so general and lacks any effort on your part. I interpet it as, please tell me the subjectively best models to buy so I don't have to do any research.

You probably won't be surprised to learn that such effortless threads are made multiple times a day, a week etc as well as posted in the chat box. The community is here to help but not spoon feed.

Edit: grammar.

 

[RDRoss]

Dear sweet fluffy Jebus, here we go again. As others have mentioned, your question comes across as a basic request to be spoon fed answers. While the community in general is happy to offer advice on specific questions and topics, this is not one of them. This site exists to help people make informed decisions based on research. We were all new once, read the stickies, began our journey, and eventually formed opinions and learned about the hobby (through trial and error).

“Who had the best…” is not the right question to start off with. Try “how do I search for….” Instead. Answer: try googling using the “site” prefix in your query followed by the RWI url and your question. You might find interesting treasures await.

And try reading brand reviews in their appointed sections. It would really help you out. Seriously, there is gold in them there hills.

 

[IvorH]

I think one of the most fascinating and enjoyable parts of the rep game is in the research itself!

 

[SeniorChief]

Instead of looking at the best models, look at the watches you're interested in.

In general the Rolex models are a step above the rest. Panerai, AP, have some good ones. So do IWC.

Here's a basic Excel compiled for you that is semi updated but there are many nuances.

Post in thread '[CONSENSUAL LIST] Super Reps NWBIGs' https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/consensual-list-super-reps-nwbigs.308081/post-11975699

As Art said you should learn to do research. There are hundreds of threads and your questions have been answered 100x before.

T

Dear sweet fluffy Jebus, here we go again. As others have mentioned, your question comes across as a basic request to be spoon fed answers. While the community in general is happy to offer advice on specific questions and topics, this is not one of them. This site exists to help people make informed decisions based on research. We were all new once, read the stickies, began our journey, and eventually formed opinions and learned about the hobby (through trial and error).

“Who had the best…” is not the right question to start off with. Try “how do I search for….” Instead. Answer: try googling using the “site” prefix in your query followed by the RWI url and your question. You might find interesting treasures await.

And try reading brand reviews in their appointed sections. It would really help you out. Seriously, there is gold in them there hills.

All

Dear sweet fluffy Jebus, here we go again. As others have mentioned, your question comes across as a basic request to be spoon fed answers. While the community in general is happy to offer advice on specific questions and topics, this is not one of them. This site exists to help people make informed decisions based on research. We were all new once, read the stickies, began our journey, and eventually formed opinions and learned about the hobby (through trial and error).

“Who had the best…” is not the right question to start off with. Try “how do I search for….” Instead. Answer: try googling using the “site” prefix in your query followed by the RWI url and your question. You might find interesting treasures await.

And try reading brand reviews in their appointed sections. It would really help you out. Seriously, there is gold in them there hills.

Ive done plenty reading and research on the suject of repand reading on the
he reason behind the question was to get different opinions on what others with more experience collecting reps thought their money has been best spent. What was the best value for the money without regard to a particular brand. In other words, putting function before aesthetics
yes, naturally that was my first instinct meaning, I enjoy the looks for a four digit Rolex like the GMT-Master ref 1675 But adding thoes two complications and not Knowing much about asian movements it might be better to lok ant

Seriously?

I'd suggest reading the forum.

I suggest if you dont have an anwer you

Dear sweet fluffy Jebus, here we go again. As others have mentioned, your question comes across as a basic request to be spoon fed answers. While the community in general is happy to offer advice on specific questions and topics, this is not one of them. This site exists to help people make informed decisions based on research. We were all new once, read the stickies, began our journey, and eventually formed opinions and learned about the hobby (through trial and error).

“Who had the best…” is not the right question to start off with. Try “how do I search for….” Instead. Answer: try googling using the “site” prefix in your query followed by the RWI url and your question. You might find interesting treasures await.

And try reading brand reviews in their appointed sections. It would really help you out. Seriously, there is gold in them there hills.

Never mind....LMMFAO

 

[RDRoss]

@Reaps @Art Vandelay , have we come full circle yet?

I must be feeling charitable today. Let’s try this one more time. There are DETAILED REVIEWS about Both movements and models. They tell you about movements and their build quality and reliability (just look up @dogwood s amazing work). The Asian ETA clones are also discussed in exquisite detail and how they are easy to mange and repair.

There are detailed long term reviews of models. There are plenty of reviews about custom builds.

My dude. Buy a Casio or something if you have concerns about quality of Chinese copies of luxury watches built in suboptimal factories.

 

[Reaps]

@Reaps @Art Vandelay , have we come full circle yet?

I must be feeling charitable today. Let’s try this one more time. There are DETAILED REVIEWS about Both movements and models. They tell you about movements and their build quality and reliability (just look up @dogwood s amazing work). The Asian ETA clones are also discussed in exquisite detail and how they are easy to mange and repair.

There are detailed long term reviews of models. There are plenty of reviews about custom builds.

My dude. Buy a Casio or something if you have concerns about quality of Chinese copies of luxury watches built in suboptimal factories.

Engage, give advice, disengage,

If it hurts my head, I don't post in the thread.

 

[RDRoss]

@Reaps so true.

 

[tkingjr]

I'm curious to learn your thoughts (especially from the rep experts) on which Rep. reference watch(es) are the best made ie closest in aesthetics to their respective Gen which are mechanically sound and have given you years of satisfactory performance (regardless of brand). Thank you.

Hi Chief
Here is my process to find the best watch. Most of my watches are Breitling so I find the Gen I want. Then look for a Rep. I compare front views using PowerPoint to check for flaws. If you are spending in the $400-$600+ range you are buying the best Rep available. Knowing what factory makes the watch is the most important factor. All this info about the factories is on RWI. If you buy only on price you will be disappointed. It takes months of reading to learn what not to do. Develop a relationship with your TD so they will do a better job for you. Don't change TD's to save $5.00. If your watch arrives DOA send it out for service to a local watch maker that will work on Reps. If you are in USA ship via slow China Post to avoid seizure. I have more than 100 Reps. My TD goes out of here way to find my the best possible Rep, sends it to her watch maker to check it before shipping it to me.

 

[dogwood]

The journey is long… enjoy it.

The real friends are the reps we made along the way.

 

[Winni1611]

Some of the TD's like ctime made impressive reviews of Asien movements in comparison to the original ones.

 

[SeniorChief]

Memorandum

To: Head Mother Fucker In Charge RWI
Fr: Senior Chief

SUBJ: SHIT-CAN THIS THREAD

1. At your convenience circular file this thread.

R/Senior Chief USN (RET)

Hi Chief
Here is my process to find the best watch. Most of my watches are Breitling so I find the Gen I want. Then look for a Rep. I compare front views using PowerPoint to check for flaws. If you are spending in the $400-$600+ range you are buying the best Rep available. Knowing what factory makes the watch is the most important factor. All this info about the factories is on RWI. If you buy only on price you will be disappointed. It takes months of reading to learn what not to do. Develop a relationship with your TD so they will do a better job for you. Don't change TD's to save $5.00. If your watch arrives DOA send it out for service to a local watch maker that will work on Reps. If you are in USA ship via slow China Post to avoid seizure. I have more than 100 Reps. My TD goes out of here way to find my the best possible Rep, sends it to her watch maker to check it before shipping it to me.

Some of the TD's like ctime made impressive reviews of Asien movements in comparison to the original ones.

Thank You, @Winni161

 

[RDRoss]

My dude,
Just some advice. You take your lumps and learn from it like the rest of us. And the thread acts as an educational cautionary tale for future readers.

And calling the site owner and or Mods motherfuckers is likely not a good idea.

 

[Ghostrider757]

 

[SeniorChief]

Memorandum

To: Head Mother Fucker In Charge RWI
Fr: Senior Chief

SUBJ: SHIT-CAN THIS THREAD

1. At your convenience circular file this thread.

R/Senior Chief USN (RET)

Hi Chief
Here is my process to find the best watch. Most of my watches are Breitling so I find the Gen I want. Then look for a Rep. I compare front views using PowerPoint to check for flaws. If you are spending in the $400-$600+ range you are buying the best Rep available. Knowing what factory makes the watch is the most important factor. All this info about the factories is on RWI. If you buy only on price you will be disappointed. It takes months of reading to learn what not to do. Develop a relationship with your TD so they will do a better job for you. Don't change TD's to save $5.00. If your watch arrives DOA send it out for service to a local watch maker that will work on Reps. If you are in USA ship via slow China Post to avoid seizure. I have more than 100 Reps. My TD goes out of here way to find my the best possible Rep, sends it to her watch maker to check it before shipping it to me.

Some of the TD's like ctime made impressive reviews of Asien movements in comparison to the original ones.

Thank You, @

The journey is long… enjoy it.

The real friends are the reps we made along the way.

Winni161

Hi Chief
Here is my process to find the best watch. Most of my watches are Breitling so I find the Gen I want. Then look for a Rep. I compare front views using PowerPoint to check for flaws. If you are spending in the $400-$600+ range you are buying the best Rep available. Knowing what factory makes the watch is the most important factor. All this info about the factories is on RWI. If you buy only on price you will be disappointed. It takes months of reading to learn what not to do. Develop a relationship with your TD so they will do a better job for you. Don't change TD's to save $5.00. If your watch arrives DOA send it out for service to a local watch maker that will work on Reps. If you are in USA ship via slow China Post to avoid seizure. I have more than 100 Reps. My TD goes out of here way to find my the best possible Rep, sends it to her watch maker to check it before shipping it to me.

Thanks @Winn161
I pretty much have the purchasing aspects down. I think using power point to perform a QA check is a great idea and as for developing a friendly relationship with the TD to hopefully get the best reproduction they have available at the time of purchase is worth the effort. Thank you for the advice.

I appreciate you responding and being the owner of 100+ reps, you were the kind of person I wanted to get input from. I wanted to know from people like you that were willing to comment and had years of hands-on experience with your reps regardless of the brand, which rep(s), with what movements would YOU say has or have given YOU the longest and best service over the years. Now this apparently sounded like a foolish question to some on this forum. I received comments from half-wits telling me that I should learn how to do "research" LMMFAO! I've always done my due diligence. Believe me in my job you couldn't afford not to. Maybe you didn't like my question, that's unfortunate for you, and you shouldn't have let your "manginas" get all irritated to the point you had to bitch and whine about a question someone asked. You know how irrelevant that makes you? Now I frankly don't give two fks about your opinions or your comments. But let me tell you something someone should have told to a long time ago. My thing is I see a thread that doesn't suit my taste and I can't add a constructive comment, I move along. I don't bitch and whine myself into an early myocardial infarction. Right.

Having been in one of the US Navy diving communities for 25 years I've worn and broken more than my share of watches. Even though we use computers, dive watches are still a part of our community. I've owned many different dive/tool watches that I've worn on and off duty from my first Seiko 7002-7001, to my SKX007, handfuls of Casio's (Id buy them in pairs), a couple of DIVEX Pro and an Offshore, a Scuffa Diver One, a Zodiac, a Helm and others I'd picked up along the way in Singapore, the P.I. and Thailand. Now I've always liked the esthetics of a Rolex Sub especially the vintage four digits and in particular the 6538 big crown, but I won't go that deep into my pockets.

In any case I'm trying to keep my distance from reproduction I have to put on a semi-annual, or yearly maintenance schedule and have to change out the movements constantly like I do the batteries on my red dots and other kit. So, anyway that's basically it.

Again, @Winn161 thank you for your input, response appreciated and have a great Sunday.

r/Senior Chief (EOD) Retired

 

[Winni1611]

Generally you can say: the more complicated a movement the bigger the chance it bracs.
As far as I know All the movements cloning the original rlx movements are less reliable than
ETA movements. Many of the members hear Use the ETA 2836, which is a very reliable movement.
Beside that the ETA are easy to service and rather cheap if you need a new one. For me its ok, no one opens the caseback of my watches and Beside that my friends know they are reps. I'v build a few 6538 and always used a 6538. Its an absolut reliable workhorse.

 

[SeniorChief]

Generally you can say: the more complicated a movement the bigger the chance it bracs.
As far as I know All the movements cloning the original rlx movements are less reliable than
ETA movements. Many of the members hear Use the ETA 2836, which is a very reliable movement.
Beside that the ETA are easy to service and rather cheap if you need a new one. For me its ok, no one opens the caseback of my watches and Beside that my friends know they are reps. I'v build a few 6538 and always used a 6538. Its an absolut reliable workhorse.

Exactly! Chinese can't build a quality clone ETA at the price point they need to be at.