Wanted: ETA 2892-A2 movement, Cartier decoration

[craigbramley]

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know where I can purchase an ETA 2892-A2 movement with Cartier decoration?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Craig

 

[sixgungibson]

I'm also curious. I have a Calibre that could use a new Miyota movement.

 

[jonathanw]

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know where I can purchase an ETA 2892-A2 movement with Cartier decoration?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Craig

Even though for many experienced users this question may appear dumb, I hate it when a person has a genuine question and posts it here, gets read by 100 users and nobody cares to reply because of their ego. It's happened to me many times before and more when I was a very basic noob.

Its very hard for anyone to sell you just the ETA cartier decorated movement, you would have to buy the whole watch.

Look at these:
http://www.ts-station.co/399-calibre-de-cartier?p=4

Those come with ETA (Asian clones) 2824, not 2892 A2 and not Swiss made. I don't know why would you specifically want a 2892 A2 and Im telling you you won't find it anywhere with a stock "cartier decoration". You would have to buy one of these watches with matching DW colour and hands and take it to a rep friendly watch smith who then can take out the ETA 2824, take out the decorated rotor (these are actually NOT as nice as the decoration on the seagull 1731 rotors made by JF http://www.ts-station.co/17007-ca17007-calibre-de--black-dial-tt-rg-seagull-1731-automatic.html)

also he would take out the hands and DW and try to fit everything onto a genuine swiss ETA 28982 A2, I don't know if rotor will fit but he could try? I don't know if the cannon pinion is the same height or if the DW would fit right into the 2892 A2, etc. would have to be trial and error and could get a little pricey and time consuming, but if its a must and you're a patient person then go for it.

These reps I linked are NOT from JF factory (currently the best maker of this model rep) but the quality is not bad, the only thing I can see that is an easy tell is that the subdial outer circle doesnt go through the centre cannon pinion like the Gen and like the JF factory one. The JF uses an Asian clone movement, which is actually not bad in itself, its a Seagull 1731, the only issue is the movement is low beat 21000 bhp and the second hand sweeping motion is thus a little jerky vs the smooth sweeping of an ETA 28000 bhp.

If you give more information on what you already have and more importantly, what you want to accomplish then I could help more.

 

[jonathanw]

I'm also curious. I have a Calibre that could use a new Miyota movement.

Why? Miyota for this rep has the inverted date wheel. instant tell.

 

[R2D4]

Even though for many experienced users this question may appear dumb, I hate it when a person has a genuine question and posts it here, gets read by 100 users and nobody cares to reply because of their ego. It's happened to me many times before and more when I was a very basic noob.

First off did it ever occur to you people read this and couldn't answer the question? Secondly, ego has nothing to do with it either. Thirdly, this WTB section gets very little promotion as it is. We aren't big assholes here, not all of us, so put down the beat stick and megaphone.

As to the question,

I haven't seen a gen 2892 Cartier on the bay in a long long time. There was a rep with a decorated ETA 2892 Cartier. They were termed something like factory blems or something to that effect. They even came with box and papers. Angus had them, it was the best genesq Cartier of it's time. http://www.puretime.watch/product/santos-100-ss-on-leather-strap-gen-parts-eta2892/

Look at the movement really closely.. I would send Angus an email and ask him if he can still get these.

 

[KBH]

I hate it when a person has a genuine question and posts it here, gets read by 100 users and nobody cares to reply because of their ego. It's happened to me many times before and more when I was a very basic noob.

So, you think this is such an obviously easy question and you end up giving him pretty horrible advice. How exactly are you going to attach a 2824 Cartier branded rotor to a 2892-A2? Totally different rotors. And suggesting he buy a whole new watch to cobble something together isn't such great advice either.

Sorry Jonathan, but your attitude comes across to me as just as bad as your advice. I think if someone actually knew the answer, which is unlikely, they certainly would have replied.

 

[Raddave]

LOL @ ego

 

[jonathanw]

Telling people have egos is not an insult, and taking parts from one watch to another is a common practice here. This hobby doesnt make economic sense but Its awesome none the less. I dont have bad attitude im just outspoken, and I also try to help however best I can.

The rotor transplante my watchsmith is doing it from an ETA 2824 to a seagull 1731. I dont know how , i just Said a watchsmith can probably do it and do a lot other mods and movement adjustments.

And this happens pretty often, noobs ask something and they are laughed upon or ignored.

I just Said it how I perceive it, and am also open to be proven wrong. Again ego is not an insult or something to laugh at , Its just a psychological construct and a very common one.

On the flip side of the coin, this forum has become a favorite site of mine and I love expending my spare time here and learning, reading and making new acquaintances and of course there are many selfless users here that provide a lot of value to the site and have helped me a lot and I have also been ignored A LOT of times on questions, threads, PMs , etcetera , thus my remark above, it's my experience and my perception and don't mean to insult no one.


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[jonathanw]

First off did it ever occur to you people read this and couldn't answer the question? Secondly, ego has nothing to do with it either. Thirdly, this WTB section gets very little promotion as it is. We aren't big assholes here, not all of us, so put down the beat stick and megaphone.

As to the question,

I haven't seen a gen 2892 Cartier on the bay in a long long time. There was a rep with a decorated ETA 2892 Cartier. They were termed something like factory blems or something to that effect. They even came with box and papers. Angus had them, it was the best genesq Cartier of it's time. http://www.puretime.watch/product/santos-100-ss-on-leather-strap-gen-parts-eta2892/

Look at the movement really closely.. I would send Angus an email and ask him if he can still get these.

Mate, I mentioned EGOes I never said anybody here is or was "a big asshole", neither I said it, nor do I genuinely think it. No megaphone or soapbox just my personal perception, can be wrong or correct, but it's my own and one and only I have, and thus I respectfully but succinctly stated it. I will be more diplomatic form here onwards.

Best regards.


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[R2D4]

Mate, I mentioned EGOes I never said anybody here is or was "a big asshole", neither I said it, nor do I genuinely think it. No megaphone or soapbox just my personal perception, can be wrong or correct, but it's my own and one and only I have, and thus I respectfully but succinctly stated it. I will be more diplomatic form here onwards.

Best regards.


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Thanks for the reply. The ego's thing is still wrong and Arsehole is implied. I think I see where you where going with it, it is not the reason why this thread went unanswered. Too much of generality. See what I mean?

As far as being more diplomatic.. Me too. lol

Cheers.

 

[jonathanw]

Thanks for the reply. The ego's thing is still wrong and Arsehole is implied. I think I see where you where going with it, it is not the reason why this thread went unanswered. Too much of generality. See what I mean?

As far as being more diplomatic.. Me too. lol

Cheers.

Yeah I know it can have a wide interpretation and more in such way of communication -via text- where the other components -tonality, body language, emotions etc- can only be implied or guessed. And yes I see the generality in many of the unanswered threads.

On the other hand, I found out the Cartier with gen parts Puretime used to sell has been considered as having a fake movement by some members on RWG thread:
https://rwg.cc/topic/145329-would-you-buy-this


Heres's a full working gen ETA 2892 Cartier decorated movement I found on eBay yesterday:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Car...ss-made-NEW-/131554986711?hash=item1ea149cad7

And heres a pic comparison I just did of the decorated bridge of that one "gen" cartier movement with a gen cartier ETA 2892 rotor, to me the 2892 from Puretime looks gen:

GEN ROTOR:

ANOTHER GEN FULL 2892 CARTIER MOVEMENT, THOUGH NEWER

 

[R2D4]

Good investigative work mate! I knew Angus had them and like was mentioned, they were Genesq.. I love 2892's. I will say this though, despite the parts discrepancies you pointed out above, it's still a very cool watch. :sub4me: Also there are different variations of the 2892 balance wheel. Cartier uses the chronometer grade balance wheel. It could be the rep factories put in generic balances? Or, it's a 2892 clone. hehe

 

[jonathanw]

Good investigative work mate! I knew Angus had them and like was mentioned, they were Genesq.. I love 2892's. I will say this though, despite the parts discrepancies you pointed out above, it's still a very cool watch. :sub4me: Also there are different variations of the 2892 balance wheel. Cartier uses the chronometer grade balance wheel. It could be the rep factories put in generic balances? Or, it's a 2892 clone. hehe

I have read these watches were put together by using factory reject parts or something like that. Nonetheless its a very nice watch and a very interesting story.

Nowadays is very hard to source gen cartier parts as I have tried. All one can find are used parts or New old stock sometimes. Good luck trying to source a gen cartier 1904 MC movement! on the other hand the rolex gen parts are somewhat more available.

 

[jewped]

i bet they slogged alot of money putting that budget 2892 together with that pretty cartier decorated rotor loll