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VSF124060 no date submariner release 3230 movement

CTime

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After a long wait, we finally have this new 124060 from VSF.
One thing need to be mentioned, the genuine 3230 has two switches, this 3230 is modified based on 3235 movement, so the crown has three switches, but only functional on the last two. And the laser engraving on the movement is still 3235, could have changed that.
Other than that, this submariner details are the same as always.

 

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Please post photos of case engraving between the lugs. Fingers crossed that it's engraved 124060.🤞
 

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Very interesting. It’s unfortunate that VSF (and Dandong) didn’t update the movement (part number 231 the “setting lever jumper”) to only have two positions (winding and time setting).

Unfortunately it’s unlikely that it’ll be possible to modify the setting lever jumper to get rid of the middle position. As you can see in the the VSF (and Gen) parts have three positions: winding (red), date correction (green), and time setting (blue).



In order to get only two positions, the middle dent would need to be filled in so there is no valley for the setting lever pin to stop in.

Unfortunately this part has a pinion that’s peened (riveted) through it at the factory. So even for someone like @Oascom with his fancy CAD skills and laser cnc, it wouldn’t be easy to fabricate an after market part to get just the two stops.

It *might* be possible to get rid of the extra position by filing away the ridge between the red and green positions. But that might leave the winding position without a very positive spot. That might not be an issue because the yoke spring is quite strong on the 323x design so the sliding pinion should be pushed pretty hard into the winding pinion in position zero (red). I’d be happy to give this a try if anyone is bold enough to order the watch and wants to send it to me for a trial mod.

Of course a gen 3230-231 part would also fit and work. But a quick google search didn’t yield any gen setting lever jumpers for sale.
 

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VSF seems to be getting sloppy. Apparently all the praise over the past 3 years have gone to their head. This is a poor attempt at a 124060. The SELs have big gaps. The bezel insert already looks grey and faded at 12. Don’t get me started on the moevement. But rest assured there will plenty of lemmings lining up to separate with $550
 

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You’ll see light coming through the side of the SEL on any gen when it is backlit like that.

New to the scene but I noticed this too when comparing against a number of used gen models e.g sel gap and a glimpse of the spring bar showing.



 

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As usual from VSF, nice one. A pity they didn't go the last mile regarding the movement.
 

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As usual from VSF, nice one. A pity they didn't go the last mile regarding the movement.
Can't give us the perfect rep straight out of the gate. That'll probably be a v2 release, once the v1 has had a good run of sales. However, as history has shown, something that was good on the v1 may then be off.
 
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This seems like a real slipping of quality at VSF. These no date subs were a pinnacle of rep tech. The point of having clone movements in these things is to match gen as close as possible. To put in the wrong movement is a let down in quality.

They have done so well with the 11 series. Alot of people dont care about sels, movements, rehaut, etc. And these will sell. Vsf figures enough will buy it.

Next to the clean, it places second, and forget about gen.
 
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this is sad... what a let down... and I was just about to puyll the trigger... I wonder if I'd be happy with the CF with the loud rotor... probably not
 

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@CTime , will you be so kind to tell us what model is engraved between the lugs?