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VSF(SBF) Rolex Daytona 126500 Panda New Dandong 4131 Movement

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I think you've found the answer to this question in the comprehensive guide to clone movements thread, but the 4802 (and 4801) is a Peacock movement and not a DD4131. The movement pictured above is the DD4131.
That's what I thought too, but I couldn't find anything about the 4802 in that thread.
From what I understand, this is not a clone movement, but it is a very reliable chronograph movement that allegedly is also used in some genuine brands. I have no idea whether this is true, though, which is why I asked :)
 

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That's what I thought too, but I couldn't find anything about the 4802 in that thread.
From what I understand, this is not a clone movement, but it is a very reliable chronograph movement that allegedly is also used in some genuine brands. I have no idea whether this is true, though, which is why I asked :)
It’s in there… but it’s in the AR4131 section (I need to update that heading). The SL-4802 is simply a skeletonized version of the SL-4801.
 

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It’s in there… but it’s in the AR4131 section (I need to update that heading). The SL-4802 is simply a skeletonized version of the SL-4801.
Yep! I found it!

Someone said that the 4802/01 are very reliable and long standing chronograph movements. Is this true? Because in that case, why even bother going for a clone movement that's twice the price, if the watch has a closed caseback anyway?
 

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Yep! I found it!

Someone said that the 4802/01 are very reliable and long standing chronograph movements. Is this true? Because in that case, why even bother going for a clone movement that's twice the price, if the watch has a closed caseback anyway?
TheSL-4801/4802 are good movements. But they have flaws eg the have unidirectional rotor winding. And some people just prefer a rep to have a clone movement.
 

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TheSL-4801/4802 are good movements. But they have flaws eg the have unidirectional rotor winding. And some people just prefer a rep to have a clone movement.
I've read that too. Apparently, the rotor can be a bit louder. But realistically, how much louder can it get? With a power reserve of 55 hours, I can live with the unidirectionality, especially considering the 400 euro savings.

Ideally, you would want a clone movement, but since true clones don't exist, why bother? As soon as you open a DD3285 or DD4130, you can tell it's a replica. We prefer these movements because they're very good, not because of how they're decorated, right?

The Peacock 4802 is evidently a good movement. It hits a sweet spot by being half the price, very reliable, and indistinguishable unless opened up, which is also the case for the DD4130!

Do you know if there are any videos showcasing how loud it really is?

This makes me wonder: why aren't there any replica watch review videos on YouTube? Does YouTube take them down unless you constantly emphasize that you'll destroy them and that the video is for educational purposes?
 

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I've read that too. Apparently, the rotor can be a bit louder. But realistically, how much louder can it get? With a power reserve of 55 hours, I can live with the unidirectionality, especially considering the 400 euro savings.

Ideally, you would want a clone movement, but since true clones don't exist, why bother? As soon as you open a DD3285 or DD4130, you can tell it's a replica. We prefer these movements because they're very good, not because of how they're decorated, right?

The Peacock 4802 is evidently a good movement. It hits a sweet spot by being half the price, very reliable, and indistinguishable unless opened up, which is also the case for the DD4130!

Do you know if there are any videos showcasing how loud it really is?

This makes me wonder: why aren't there any replica watch review videos on YouTube? Does YouTube take them down unless you constantly emphasize that you'll destroy them and that the video is for educational purposes?
Sound and loudness are hard to quantify. Some people find some frequencies of sound more annoying than others (just ask any non-parents vs. parent how they feel about the sound of children).

And I strongly suspect that YouTube has a policy against reviews of counterfeit products.
 

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Sound and loudness are hard to quantify. Some people find some frequencies of sound more annoying than others (just ask any non-parents vs. parent how they feel about the sound of children).

And I strongly suspect that YouTube has a policy against reviews of counterfeit products.
I only found this guy:


Not a very good review, but at least he's trying. It also seems more like publicity for some replica store, than anything else.
 

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The link is literally in the post that you quoted…
 
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