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VSF PAM508

CybNoX

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New release, movement not updated to quick hour change yet though
 

muiramas

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Just seen this on Puretime. I've been wondering if to get a 508 or the carbotech 616.

The problem on this 508 though is that the vintage / tan colour seems to be jumping around all over the place - from hands to dial print, bezel and indexes - it's really inconsistent.
 
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d4m.test

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Just seen this on Puretime. I've been wondering if to get a 508 or the carbotech 616.

The problem on this 508 though is that the vintage / tan colour seems to be jumping around all over the place - from hands to dial print, bezel and indexes - it's really inconsistent.

Is that how it is on the gen as well? Ive been contemplating the 508 as well and googled some images and it looks like that on gens as well (ie: hands seem lighter in color). Ive never handled the gen in real life so i have no clue.
 

muiramas

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Is that how it is on the gen as well? Ive been contemplating the 508 as well and googled some images and it looks like that on gens as well (ie: hands seem lighter in color). Ive never handled the gen in real life so i have no clue.

The colour is not exactly the same throughout, but it is much more 'unified'. The rep seems to vary from quite red on the bezel, against a brown pearl, the hands look too yellow, and the 12 and 6 markers are different to the other indexes. I don't think I could live with it. A lot of the Google pics are of reps!

Puretime dial pic and the beautiful gen below:

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mysterio

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The colour is not exactly the same throughout, but it is much more 'unified'. The rep seems to vary from quite red on the bezel, against a brown pearl, the hands look too yellow, and the 12 and 6 markers are different to the other indexes. I don't think I could live with it. A lot of the Google pics are of reps!

Puretime dial pic and the beautiful gen below:

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Tip: Never use a picture on the OP website. Those are either pre-production prototype watches or are simply computer generated images. If you look at this actual picture of a gen PAM508 on Risti, you will notice that the hands are a shade lighter compared to the hour markers. The sticks also look a bit lighter than the circular dots on the dial. Granted the minute bezel markers from 0-15 and the number 15, 30 and 45 are lighter compared to the ones on the rep bezel. But not everything is wrong lume wise.

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Thewatchwolf

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Tip: Never use a picture on the OP website. Those are either pre-production prototype watches or are simply computer generated images. If you look at this actual picture of a gen PAM508 on Risti, you will notice that the hands are a shade lighter compared to the hour markers. The sticks also look a bit lighter than the circular dots on the dial. Granted the minute bezel markers from 0-15 and the number 15, 30 and 45 are lighter compared to the ones on the rep bezel. But not everything is wrong lume wise.

tet444-1345.jpg
What’s your consensus on the new version?
 

mysterio

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What’s your consensus on the new version?

I can't give a consensus (by definition it is to be done by a majority) plus as I've never held the actual rep in my hands I cannot give a judgement, although I can comment on the matter. For a movement change that is only aesthetic and at the same time hidden behind a closed caseback, my comment is "same watch, no change".
 

muiramas

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Tip: Never use a picture on the OP website. Those are either pre-production prototype watches or are simply computer generated images. If you look at this actual picture of a gen PAM508 on Risti, you will notice that the hands are a shade lighter compared to the hour markers. The sticks also look a bit lighter than the circular dots on the dial. Granted the minute bezel markers from 0-15 and the number 15, 30 and 45 are lighter compared to the ones on the rep bezel. But not everything is wrong lume wise.

tet444-1345.jpg


Oh, I know that boss, I used to do that sort of work for a living. I should have searched a bit longer to find an example of the gen.

As I said above - the colour on the gen isn't identical across the watch, but it is much more 'unified' / similar than the rep posted above - which has many different colours. (As you can see on the gen pic you posted as well) I was lucky enough to see one in the flesh in Milan last month - and it looked pretty good.
 
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d4m.test

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I can't give a consensus (by definition it is to be done by a majority) plus as I've never held the actual rep in my hands I cannot give a judgement, although I can comment on the matter. For a movement change that is only aesthetic and at the same time hidden behind a closed caseback, my comment is "same watch, no change".

Dang i just paid Sead yesterday for the 508 too before i read this thread. I wasnt aware there was a new version out as the VSF was on Omagdads super rep list. Now im not sure what to look for on the qc pics lol
 

muiramas

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Dang i just paid Sead yesterday for the 508 too before i read this thread. I wasnt aware there was a new version out as the VSF was on Omagdads super rep list. Now im not sure what to look for on the qc pics lol

Colours on the VSF 508 look a lot better on Puretime's site - less variation. + you have nothing to worry about if it's from Sead - the guys a legend when it comes to QCing watches. I'd also prefer the tried and trusted a7750 and may go the same choice as you.
 

thewatcher

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The sound of the rotor on KW's 508 is really loud, has VSF's movement improved this issue?
 

Thewatchwolf

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The sound of the rotor on KW's 508 is really loud, has VSF's movement improved this issue?
I don’t know if anyone has the actual watch to report on that. However, any noisy rotor I have ever had has been pretty much fixed by adding a little oil. Gen Pams also have noisy rotors sometimes.
 

muiramas

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The sound of the rotor on KW's 508 is really loud, has VSF's movement improved this issue?

A tiny amount of mobeus oil may help, but remember the 7750 movement winds in one direction so the rotor free spins in the counter clockwise and can be heared - even on a top grade decorated movement.
 

Maitiu

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This watch is really starting to grow on me. I was dead set on the VSF 382 bronzo. But now I can't decide between the two.
 

mysterio

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Apologies. I posted pictures in a different thread. The consensus was that it was dust on the bezel.

All the more reason it could be confusing. It was a comment on the dial, then it turns out it was on the bezel. I have not been updating myself as I was out for week. :idontno: