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VSF Pam 351

greekgod

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HI guys,

I have been reading all afternoon but I couldnt find any review/detailed info/thoughts about the new VSF 351 with the super clone movement...

Would any throw some light on the VSF 351 please? It looks really nice..
 

mysterio

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There isn't any detailed info on the VSF PAM351 probably because there hasn't been many who bought it. Not that it's a bad rep, but because the previous one's issue was really just the movement. Maybe someone who got it will come across your thread and post some pics with their comments.
 

greekgod

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There isn't any detailed info on the VSF PAM351 probably because there hasn't been many who bought it. Not that it's a bad rep, but because the previous one's issue was really just the movement. Maybe someone who got it will come across your thread and post some pics with their comments.
Thanks mysterio. Are you talking about the model before VFS 351 when you refere to the "previous one"?

Does it stack up to be a super rep then? Coz from what I understand at this stage VSF is the top pf line, with a level above due to its clone movements.

Also I cant seem to find out the major differences between 312 KW V2 and VSF 312. I know ALE was very impressed with it when it came out but with the newer VSF I am thinking if I should sell my KW V2 to get the VSF 312 or perhaps 351/359 or even 320. However I am uncertain if they truly fall in the super rep category
 

mysterio

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When I say previous, I mean before the improved P.9000 movement on the VSF came out. Unfortunately, IMHO, the VSF PAM351 still does not fall into super rep category, even with the improved movement. There are still some slight tells just because some of it is purely from a visual aesthetic purpose and not functional. Had the PAM351 (and the other 1950s cased watches like the PAM312, PAM359, etc) been produced with a closed caseback, it would have earned at the very least a super rep, low level classification because you wouldn't see any of those visual tells with the closed caseback, like the PAM569, PAM571, PAM364 which use the same old decorated P.9000 movement with the visual inaccuracy of the balance wheel being @11 or @6 depending on the base movement but are all closed caseback models.
 

AntonioG

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The VSF is a new maker, wich started a few months ago with PAM441, and released other Panerai models since then. I bought the PAM441, and i have to say i´m quite impressed with this maker. For the PAM441 that i have, a can say that is better than V6F and ZF versions for this model.
 

mysterio

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The VSF is a new maker, wich started a few months ago with PAM441, and released other Panerai models since then. I bought the PAM441, and i have to say i´m quite impressed with this maker. For the PAM441 that i have, a can say that is better than V6F and ZF versions for this model.

It is not a new company. It was originally KW, which became V6F then split into two factories, XF and VSF.