VSF or ORF NTTD?

[AJB]

Ok guys so I’ve got the choice of both the VSF or the ORF No Time To Die Seamaster, which one is the best and why?

 

[AJB]

Here is a video of the ORF and VSF getting compared, I just wish I could understand what he was saying or even know which one is which.

 

[AJB]

https://m.v.qq.com/z/msite/play-short/index.html?cid=&vid=y3264ehpoii&qqVersion=0

 

[Howehaohow]

He's basically saying ORF sucks, VSF God tier
ORF has updated since...maybe?
If you have a choir, VSF 100%

 

[AJB]

He's basically saying ORF sucks, VSF God tier
ORF has updated since...maybe?
If you have a choir, VSF 100%

thanks bro, I think the vsf might be worth the extra bucks

 

[eBoy]

I'm glad I don't feel the NTTD vibe (which is odd, since the 007 marketing is, at least partially, responsible for my affinity of Omega lol) so that I don't have to pay the inflated NTTD VSF prices.

To your question which factory to get, between VS and OR: well, if you look at how desirable and sought after VSF NTTDs, and in fact all VSF Omegas, are, then this obviously would answer the question: VSF of course! If you can afford it, definitely go for the VS factory.

I own 2 VSF Omegas (SMP, PO), with another one (AT) on the way (via M2M), and absolutely love them.

 

[Soul2Soul]

you cant get either one now, both factories are closed ... and that video is an old video of the ORF prototype. Only notable flaw now in the current ORF batch is the crystal which sits a little higher than VSF and has some distortion when viewing watch sideways

 

[ranestorm]

I'm loving this piece, just cannot justify the $9k gen spend. Where's the best place to source the best replica?

 

[Interesting]

Just a brief summary

In the video the left watch is ORF, The right is VSF.

Strap
ORF - colour and stripe is wrong. The logo on clasp is wrong. the profile of the clasp is wrong. The sewing is wrong. The 007 logo is shallow.
VSF - spot on on all counts when compared to gen.

Case
ORF - thinner crystal. This leads to a bigger gap between crystal and bezel. The bezel also has too much free play. Engraving on the back is wrong. Caseback is so loose it comes out with bare hands. The thin crystal also distorts the rail and markers round the dial, and it looks quite washed out. The lugs and the chamfered profiles are also rough and not close to gen.
VSF - Thicker crystal. Correct gap between crystal and bezel as per gen. Bezel also has satisfying click. Colour is deeper, and because of the way the crystal is domed there is less distortion on the rail and the markers round the dial, and looks much closer to gen. The lugs also have a better finish and correct profiles. Caseback engraving is deeper and clearer.
Bracelet - both are stainless steel. But VSF is more correct colour wise, the logo on the clasp is better, `the links are thinner and more supple and will wrap the wrist far better.
Yep, ORF is far behind in terms of VSF.

Hope this helps.

 

[Danza1813]

Just a brief summary

In the video the left watch is ORF, The right is VSF.

Strap
ORF - colour and stripe is wrong. The logo on clasp is wrong. the profile of the clasp is wrong. The sewing is wrong. The 007 logo is shallow.
VSF - spot on on all counts when compared to gen.

Case
ORF - thinner crystal. This leads to a bigger gap between crystal and bezel. The bezel also has too much free play. Engraving on the back is wrong. Caseback is so loose it comes out with bare hands. The thin crystal also distorts the rail and markers round the dial, and it looks quite washed out. The lugs and the chamfered profiles are also rough and not close to gen.
VSF - Thicker crystal. Correct gap between crystal and bezel as per gen. Bezel also has satisfying click. Colour is deeper, and because of the way the crystal is domed there is less distortion on the rail and the markers round the dial, and looks much closer to gen. The lugs also have a better finish and correct profiles. Caseback engraving is deeper and clearer.
Bracelet - both are stainless steel. But VSF is more correct colour wise, the logo on the clasp is better, `the links are thinner and more supple and will wrap the wrist far better.
Yep, ORF is far behind in terms of VSF.

Hope this helps.

The vsf strap isn’t quite spot on to gen, the gen is actually a very dark brown and not black as per the vsf. Also the widths of the stripes are off. It’s one of those you can’t unsee. The titanium hardware however is spot on.


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[Danza1813]

If you have a choice between orf and vsf (v2 onwards) then there is no choice as it simply has to be the vsf.


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[Interesting]

The vsf strap isn’t quite spot on to gen, the gen is actually a very dark brown and not black as per the vsf. Also the widths of the stripes are off. It’s one of those you can’t unsee. The titanium hardware however is spot on.


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It is what the chap said in Chinese . take it up with him

 

[smk1026]

I wish I had the choice of either...Ive had 2 TDs try to source an orf, or agf of this watch and to no avail. lol bad timing for me I suppose.

 

[AJB]

Just a brief summary

In the video the left watch is ORF, The right is VSF.

Strap
ORF - colour and stripe is wrong. The logo on clasp is wrong. the profile of the clasp is wrong. The sewing is wrong. The 007 logo is shallow.
VSF - spot on on all counts when compared to gen.

Case
ORF - thinner crystal. This leads to a bigger gap between crystal and bezel. The bezel also has too much free play. Engraving on the back is wrong. Caseback is so loose it comes out with bare hands. The thin crystal also distorts the rail and markers round the dial, and it looks quite washed out. The lugs and the chamfered profiles are also rough and not close to gen.
VSF - Thicker crystal. Correct gap between crystal and bezel as per gen. Bezel also has satisfying click. Colour is deeper, and because of the way the crystal is domed there is less distortion on the rail and the markers round the dial, and looks much closer to gen. The lugs also have a better finish and correct profiles. Caseback engraving is deeper and clearer.
Bracelet - both are stainless steel. But VSF is more correct colour wise, the logo on the clasp is better, `the links are thinner and more supple and will wrap the wrist far better.
Yep, ORF is far behind in terms of VSF.

Hope this helps.

You buddy are a legend, thank you so much!

absolute no brainier then, has to be the VSF if I can get my hands on one.

is the VSF V2 or V3 onwards in titanium? I want the dark titanium colour for most accuracy.

 

[Danza1813]

You buddy are a legend, thank you so much!

absolute no brainier then, has to be the VSF if I can get my hands on one.

is the VSF V2 or V3 onwards in titanium? I want the dark titanium colour for most accuracy.

Correct v2 vsf onwards is titanium. V3 has an updated bezel insert with slightly thicker font and v4 has a better mesh. If it’s a v2 stay well clear as it’s steel.


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[AJB]

Correct v2 vsf onwards is titanium. V3 has an updated bezel insert with slightly thicker font and v4 has a better mesh. If it’s a v2 stay well clear as it’s steel.


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So let me get this right, don’t go V2 because it’s chrome steel, go V3 because it’s dark titanium?

 

[Danza1813]

So let me get this right, don’t go V2 because it’s chrome steel, go V3 because it’s dark titanium?

Sorry that was a typo error. Meant to say stay away from v1 (it was a shortly produced steel prototype for the v2 basically)

V2,3,4 all titanium.


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[Rocket14]

I wish I had the choice of either...Ive had 2 TDs try to source an orf, or agf of this watch and to no avail. lol bad timing for me I suppose.

Puretime has listed the ORF NTTD today, $468

 

[The Rod]

I just noticed that on puretime the last ORF is listed with titanium mesh?

 

[Bkhwkn]

Pretty happy with my newly acquired VSF V2 so here’s a shot. Really need a updated bracelet though…