VSF New Upcoming NTTD 007 with Superclone 8800

[trustytime]

The Asia clone 8800 that have been seen all around the market have always been an Asia ETA 2824 that was modified and decorated to look like the Asia 8800, including the other variants based on the 8800 calibre.

VSF has just announced that they have been developing on the superclone 8800 movement over the last few years, and will finally be releasing their Omega series with this new superclone movement.

They will be first releasing this with the No Time to Die 007, naming it as their V4 version, which for our understanding is already the 6th version they are releasing, i.e. V6 for us dealers, with the superclone A8806 movement.


Here are some translated posters about the new Superclone 8800 as well as a short translated write up from VSF.

VS's new No Time to Die 007——V4 version upgraded Omega 8800 integrated movement! The appearance and function of VS 8800 movement are consistent with the original.
Movement function:
① The calendar adjustment method of VS integrated machine is consistent with the original, rotating the crown in the counterclockwise direction.
② The power reserve of VS 8800 integrated movement is 52 hours, which is 11 hours higher than the 41 hours of 2824 movement! Close to the 55 hours of storage of the original.
③ All small accessories such as gems, gears, screws, etc. have real functions. It is not a 2824 fake splint on the movement, with glue to glue gems and gears. The appearance is similar but easy to fall off and cause movement failure.
Movement appearance:
① The diameter of VS 8800 is consistent with the original, which is 26.5MM and the thickness is about 4.65MM. The outer diameter of 2824 splint machine is 26.0 MM and the thickness is 5.6MM.
②The shape of the movement's balance wheel, the grooves around the main plate, and the milling effect of the plate are consistent with the texture of the genuine movement.

 

[Reaps]

They released it... with a no date variant where the no calendar adjustment would matter

 

[ebzen02]

They released it... with a no date variant where the no calendar adjustment would matter

Yeah.. I don’t see the purpose of spending the extra money.. though great effort. Will be great on other variants that these features can be used on.

 

[theLucanus]

Do we know if the best rate is adjusted to 25,200 or still 28,800?

 

[evilgenius88]

Does that also mean twin barrels? They kind of have to, even if just to match the power reserve of the gen.

 

[botsyboy]

Let’s hope they improve the cases finally

 

[markiz_zigfrid]

I would like to clarify whether this is truly a complete copy of Gen movement (as for examle as Rolex 4130 ) meaning with a Co-Axial escapement?.
If not, then I don’t see the point in it. It would just be another reworked movement adapted in the style of the 8800.

 

[sfbatman787]

I would like to clarify whether this is truly a complete copy of Gen movement (as for examle as Rolex 4130 ) meaning with a Co-Axial escapement?.
If not, then I don’t see the point in it. It would just be another reworked movement adapted in the style of the 8800.

@trustytime +1

 

[Reaps]

I would like to clarify whether this is truly a complete copy of Gen movement (as for examle as Rolex 4130 ) meaning with a Co-Axial escapement?.
If not, then I don’t see the point in it. It would just be another reworked movement adapted in the style of the 8800.

It does not have a coaxial

Benefits are the PR, correct calender adjustment, rotor isn't the A2824, visual benefits such as dual barrel

And hopefully frankening prospects without snipping dial feets. That's about it.

It has the 2 regulator arms which imho is a instant tell.

I prefer A2824 version.

 

[Chrono2249]

IMHO, this is a step back from 2824 decorated, probably going to be impossible to service plus 2nd regulator arm is bigger thell than movement being 1mm bigger

 

[bavarex]

Of course no true Co-axial escapement. They use the same balance bridge as their 8500s used in ATs an SMPOs
and I doubt it's a true full clone movement, rather a mix of 2892,2836,2824,7750 + custom parts mixed together.
And if its made by Dandong, then it will have for sure a 7750 keyless So it will have a phantom position i think.
If its made with the same quality like the 8500s are made, then it's a better movement than an asian 2824.

 

[WatchLover007]

To be fair…. Since NTTD has a closed caseback, the best thing to do is to buy a previous version and when the movement craps out, put in brand new Sellita and you have an amazing watch that will outlive you.

 

[evilgenius88]

To be fair…. Since NTTD has a closed caseback, the best thing to do is to buy a previous version and when the movement craps out, put in brand new Sellita and you have an amazing watch that will outlive you.

Would a Sellita fit the case / do the rep hands fit?

 

[WatchLover007]

Would a Sellita fit the case / do the rep hands fit?

If I’m not mistaken (please check with others before buying), VSF “clone” Omega movements up until this new version, are heavily modified eta clones. Not sure about every single Omega “clone” movements, so please check with other users, but I know for a fact that people here have put Sellita SW200 movements in the VSF NTTD. If I’m not mistaken, it’s a direct replacement.

And despite how people have started to treat watches without in house movements in the last few years, Eta/Sellita make great movements. I had gen 90s Submariner and gen 90s Seamaster which has Omega 1120 (modified ETA 2982) and I would argue that ETA was, at worst, the same quality as Rolex, if not better.

So Sellita in VSF NTTD would give you a truly great watch, a watch that looked like new Omega, with movement that would be comparable to what Omega actually used in the past. Up until 2005, if I’m not mistaken. Or well, in SMP, they used ETA based 2500 movement (with added co-axial escapement) up until 2017.

 

[spaceman007]

Did they fix the bad hands with the wrong color on the hands. Mine is very pink. I think I have a V2 VSF.
I wonder if I can just buy the hands?

 

[mclarendude]

Would a Sellita fit the case / do the rep hands fit?

It does, but you need to take the hour/minutes wheels from the clone as they have taller pinions than the regular wheels.

 

[kiasunkiasi]

Did they fix the bad hands with the wrong color on the hands. Mine is very pink. I think I have a V2 VSF.
I wonder if I can just buy the hands?

on the same boat having pinkish hands NTTD

 

[ladygeek]

I sure hope they fixed the pink hands. Hopefully, somebody will posit a comparison.

 

[Cooper627]

waiting to see some QC for this, excited but seems a bit pointless given the closed caseback... :/

 

[Repworld]

What about sapphire crystal Comparison with genuine show wrong height ?