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VR/VS 3135/3235 or Swiss ETA2824/2892 ?

BigBangDreamer07

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I see some premium Rolex models such as DJ in VR/VS 3135/3235 movements.
Are they as good as Swiss ETA 2824/2892, or are the clones still inferior to the Swiss movements?
I am asking because some GMF DJ models offer A2824, which I can replace with Swiss ETA if I am looking for long-term use.

May I get some feedback on this?
 

Davne25

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Hey mate, asking this question is like asking if a porsche engine is as good as a hyundai engine (no offense).

The swiss ETA movements will always be superior to any asian clone movement, in my opinion.
The reason to buy any clone 3135 or 3235 is just to know for yourself that your watch is run by a similar looking movement to the genuine rolex watch.
In terms of longevity, i would always go for A2824 until it breaks and then replace with a swiss one. Of course you can be lucky and have a watch with a clone 3135 that will last many years, but the odds are still on the downside for this movement type.
Dont get me wrong, the recent VR/VS3135 movements have made a big step upwards in quality but if you want to go the safe Route i recommend going for asian ETA clones and replacing it like said.
However this is just my opinion :)


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As an alternative opinion to Davne25's, I would always rather have a clone 3135/3235 movement in a rep that offers it. For the following reasons:

1. The clone movement operates exactly the same way as the gen.
2. There's no compromises to the position of the crown (the crown position may be different with an ETA clone movement).
3. When/if the clone movement fails, it's relatively cheap to replace.
 

BigBangDreamer07

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In terms of longevity, i would always go for A2824 until it breaks and then replace with a swiss one.

There's this Hublot watch from GSF that offers A2892 or, with ~$200 more, supposedly genuine SW-300 (both are engraved with hublot marks as gen parts).
Is it safe to trust the factory that it is brand new SW300, or should I go with A2892, and as you recommended replace with ETA2892 or SW300 later? In this case, I probably wont be able to keep the engraved parts which is significant because the watch design has open case back.
 

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p0pperini I read some reviews that VR3235 makes pretty damn loud noise, but also read that gen 3235 does that too. Is it true?
Hmm. Not that I’ve noticed. And my hearing is one of my few faculties that remains pretty sensitive.
 

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What if it's a miyota movement vs an Asian clone? Isn't miyota equivalent to a swiss eta movement?
 

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Regarding the SW-300 i cant tell for sure it they will use a brand new SW-300 because i have never used that offer from factorys, some people say they just take ur money and use a refurbished one, some say it’s legit, i really dont know about this. But i for myself would always swap it in myself because i am able to do the work by myself, thats the reason. And yes you should be able to keep the engraved parts, you can just swap the Bridges or the rotor and use them on the genuine movement. Being exact with this you would then have a hybrid movement but just the bridge or the rotor wont really affect the longevity (maybe by 1-3% overall)


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BigBangDreamer07

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Davne25

I see two parts of the A2892 that are engraved (the logo & the brand name). I know nothing about parts...would I be able to keep these two parts even when I change to Swiss ETA 2892? Are these two parts that generally are not defected when the movement goes wrong?
 

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Hey mate, asking this question is like asking if a porsche engine is as good as a hyundai engine (no offense).

The swiss ETA movements will always be superior to any asian clone movement, in my opinion.
The reason to buy any clone 3135 or 3235 is just to know for yourself that your watch is run by a similar looking movement to the genuine rolex watch.
In terms of longevity, i would always go for A2824 until it breaks and then replace with a swiss one. Of course you can be lucky and have a watch with a clone 3135 that will last many years, but the odds are still on the downside for this movement type.
Dont get me wrong, the recent VR/VS3135 movements have made a big step upwards in quality but if you want to go the safe Route i recommend going for asian ETA clones and replacing it like said.
However this is just my opinion :)


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When using ETA (and their clones), you can also be sure that next to every watchmaker novice can service it. I just recently bought a Dj 36 GMF and opted for the ETA clone because of this reason.
 
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