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UBF Oyster Perpetual 114300 Red Grape Full Review + Buying Process

SvB78

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Hello. This is my first thread on RWI, so if this is posted in the wrong area, please tell me. I posted this over on /reptime yesterday:



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The Buying Process

after deciding on intime as the TD, i researched various options (316 vs 904 steel/ETA vs 3132 movement/UB vs BP). given that 316 is visually indistinguishable from 904, that the ETA movement is easier to service (and cheap to replace), and that the BP has the wrong lume color, i went with the UBF version with the 2836 movement. after creating an account on intime and going through the process (put the watch in your basket and check out, just like amazon or ebay), i received an email with payment instructions (i used bitcoin because it's safest and you get a 6% discount). basically, you get yourself a bitcoin app such as shakepay and transfer money from your bank account into it. you then send that money to the address provided in the intime email. like paypal, but with bitcoins. very easy.

a few days later, i received QC pics, requested a few more pics (always ask for timegraph pic!) and approved the watch. It was sent out promptly, and although the EMS tracker still shows my package as being in china, i have received it. total time from checkout to delivery was exactly 2 weeks. the process was smooth and quick, and i received great service from ryan.

now, the watch:




The Case

flawlessly finished. evenly brushed, beautifully curved, bezel polished to an almost mirror finish. a bit thinner than the njshao due to its slimmer caseback (as per gen, remember that the njshao has a thick movement).




The Dial

stunning. i have a $50 njshao (in blue), and the sunburst effect is nice. when i unpacked the UBF i expected the same but in red, but i was positively shocked by what i saw. the markers and hands reflect and shine and dazzle in sunlight like you wouldn't believe. the gen ones are white gold of course, but i didn't expect these steel markers to have the same effect. the njshao looks flat in comparison. the sunburst effect is more subdued, but "deeper" in the paint somehow. maybe the dial is a touch too dark compared to a gen, almost purple turning to brown when held at an angle, but it's absolutely gorgeous. just looking at it for the first time gives such an impression of quality that it's hard to describe if you haven't seen it and compared it with a dhgater. the lume is also strong (and the right color). the number 4 and 5 markers are ever so slightly misaligned (i noticed in QC but figured i couldn't get any better at this price), but it doesn't bother me.




The Bracelet

unbelievable. the njshao rattles and has a bit of play in it (side to side), and the clasp has tons of play in it. the endlinks don't fit exactly, and there is an unsightly gap under the bezel where the center link should rise to meet it. on the UBF, it seems to have similar weight, but everything is rock solid. no play at all, immovable end links that meet the bezel; everything seems milled from a solid block, yet it is supple. nice clasp action, no burn marks from the engravings, and no sharp edges anywhere. it does make a bit of noise when moved (but not on the arm), so i will give it the baby oil treatment. one thing to note is that the bracelet is a bit small. i have 7.75" wrists and i like a tight fit, and i did not remove any links. if your wrists are +8", this might be a bit too small for you.




The Movement

hasn't lost a second in the half-day that i've had it. butter smooth winding and time setting action, comparable to my gen tissot (which uses an ETA movement, so no surprise there). of course, the crown sits a fraction of a millimeter lower on the case side than on a gen due to the different stem height of the ETA, but that won't keep me from sleeping at night.




Overall

i spent at total of $400 CAD on this, and i feel that i could not have gotten a better watch, gen or rep, at that price. the chinese produce insane quality for the money.
 
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mad ballistic

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Thx for thread. Very few topics with this UBF Model. Looks great. Think about this model with olive dial :)

Do you have compression with the original?
 

Italian cat

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Very interested too.
I’ve been looking into NOT ARF 114300 for a while for price reason essentially (just don’t like the idea of investing 500€ in the OP) but can’t really get to a decision.
BP? UBF? ANF?
Would be really nice to have a comparison between this with plus and minus of each.
Someone else’s interested?


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Italian cat

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Congrats for thread and purchase.
I’m bery interested too.
I’ve been looking into NOT ARF 114300 for a while for price reason essentially (just don’t like the idea of investing 500€ in the OP) but can’t really get to a decision.
BP? UBF? ANF?
Would be really nice to have a comparison between this with plus and minus of each.
Is someone else interested?


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Italian cat

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Congrats for thread and purchase.
I’m bery interested too.
I’ve been looking into NOT ARF 114300 for a while for price reason essentially (just don’t like the idea of investing 500€ in the OP) but can’t really get to a decision.
BP? UBF? ANF?
Would be really nice to have a comparison between this with plus and minus of each.
Is someone else interested?


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bc1221

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Congrats for thread and purchase.
I’m bery interested too.
I’ve been looking into NOT ARF 114300 for a while for price reason essentially (just don’t like the idea of investing 500€ in the OP) but can’t really get to a decision.
BP? UBF? ANF?
Would be really nice to have a comparison between this with plus and minus of each.
Is someone else interested?


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I think the major difference is the movement. If you plan on doing a franken build, I would go with the SH movement version. That way, you can use gen parts (hands, rotor assembly..etc) but this doesn’t have a date complication so I would just go with the 2836 version and save about $200 bucks. If/when it dies, you can use that $200 and put a gen ETA in it.

You can get better hands for them from Clark’s ST or whatever brands you prefer since pretty much all Rolex style hands are available all over the place.

The hands themselves I’ve heard seem to have a rough finish on some. You can fix this but it takes some very gentle work with some very fine sand paper. Stuff almost feels like just standard paper but it has a very fine grit.

I do that for hands that have little burrs on the sides and/or have really sharp edges (if it is supposed to have rounded edges). Just use a 10x loupe and very gently sand them. Just move the hand and not the paper in 1 direction so you don’t get caught on a rougher edge and mess the entire hand up. You can also polish them very gently with some peg wood. It just takes a lot of patience and time.

I ordered a 2836 version and is on its way. Wife has the gen I got her for Mother’s Day and it hasn’t left her wrist since. They’re gorgeous and from what I can tell just from the pics, the dial color looks pretty damn close. The only thing I noticed that I may replace is the coronet on the rep dial seems a bit flat. You can buy gen or at least some nicely polished ones on etay or fleabay. Get them a more defined look.

Either way, I think they’re beauts for sure. I got a grape on the way and will probably end up with the rhodium version later too. 39mm is perfect for my skinny wrist. Especially with the curved lugs.

Great piece and you got it from one of the best sellers imo. Ryan is great and Mary (on RWG) are my go to TDs on reps and rep parts. Mary is exceptionally good at QC-ing watches and parts before even taking QC pics. She’ll reject some because of a small scratch or a marker is not aligned perfectly..etc that I’ve missed many times.

Plus, her shipping method is pretty quick too. Last order got to me in 2 weeks from when I placed the order, QC pics in 3 days, rejected the first, different QC pics the same day and shipped the next. Shipping time was roughly a week.

Not sure how any recent orders will turn out from the CVOID crap but hoping it has a similar timeline.


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bc1221

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Congrats for thread and purchase.
I’m bery interested too.
I’ve been looking into NOT ARF 114300 for a while for price reason essentially (just don’t like the idea of investing 500€ in the OP) but can’t really get to a decision.
BP? UBF? ANF?
Would be really nice to have a comparison between this with plus and minus of each.
Is someone else interested?


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I think the major difference is the movement. If you plan on doing a franken build, I would go with the SH movement version. That way, you can use gen parts (hands, rotor assembly..etc) but this doesn’t have a date complication so I would just go with the 2836 version and save about $200 bucks. If/when it dies, you can use that $200 and put a gen ETA in it.

You can get better hands for them from Clark’s ST or whatever brands you prefer since pretty much all Rolex style hands are available all over the place.

The hands themselves I’ve heard seem to have a rough finish on some. You can fix this but it takes some very gentle work with some very fine sand paper. Stuff almost feels like just standard paper but it has a very fine grit.

I do that for hands that have little burrs on the sides and/or have really sharp edges (if it is supposed to have rounded edges). Just use a 10x loupe and very gently sand them. Just move the hand and not the paper in 1 direction so you don’t get caught on a rougher edge and mess the entire hand up. You can also polish them very gently with some peg wood. It just takes a lot of patience and time.

I ordered a 2836 version and is on its way. Wife has the gen I got her for Mother’s Day and it hasn’t left her wrist since. They’re gorgeous and from what I can tell just from the pics, the dial color looks pretty damn close. The only thing I noticed that I may replace is the coronet on the rep dial seems a bit flat. You can buy gen or at least some nicely polished ones on etay or fleabay. Get them a more defined look.

Either way, I think they’re beauts for sure. I got a grape on the way and will probably end up with the rhodium version later too. 39mm is perfect for my skinny wrist. Especially with the curved lugs.

Great piece and you got it from one of the best sellers imo. Ryan is great and Mary (on RWG) are my go to TDs on reps and rep parts. Mary is exceptionally good at QC-ing watches and parts before even taking QC pics. She’ll reject some because of a small scratch or a marker is not aligned perfectly..etc that I’ve missed many times.

Plus, her shipping method is pretty quick too. Last order got to me in 2 weeks from when I placed the order, QC pics in 3 days, rejected the first, different QC pics the same day and shipped the next. Shipping time was roughly a week.

Not sure how any recent orders will turn out from the CVOID crap but hoping it has a similar timeline.


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ANF from Trusty at $288 + ship etc. Love it. Keeps great time and is a real looker at least to me. Alignment is spot on and the coronet is the gen like one. I had to add 2 links for my 8.5" wrist.
 
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Daithi66

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I'm looking at the UBF model on puretime. It looks pretty nice, and it's really reasonably priced. However, it doesn't indicate if it has the crown etched at 6:00. Does anyone know if the UBF model has the crown etched at 6:00? It's significantly cheaper than other models, but the etch is a must for me, as enough people are aware of its presence. I know most people are never going to examine my watch that closely, but if I let someone then I'd hate to have them point out it is missing.

Here's the one I'm looking at---

https://puretimewatch.io/oyster-per...-edition-white-dial-on-ss-bracelet-a2824.html
 

Daithi66

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I'm looking at the UBF model on puretime. It looks pretty nice, and it's really reasonably priced. However, it doesn't indicate if it has the crown etched at 6:00. Does anyone know if the UBF model has the crown etched at 6:00? It's significantly cheaper than other models, but the etch is a must for me, as enough people are aware of its presence. I know most people are never going to examine my watch that closely, but if I let someone then I'd hate to have them point out it is missing.

Here's the one I'm looking at---

https://puretimewatch.io/oyster-per...-edition-white-dial-on-ss-bracelet-a2824.html

My apologies, I posted this in the wrong window & thread.
 

SuperBatman

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SvB78 thank you very much for the detailed review! can you post photos of the bracelet and clasp too?