I apologize for the question probably already repeated. I am looking on the website and studying various rep of the watches that I like. I have seen the list of super reps and some Tudors are inside. Which Tudor BB red Zf in the list is it? The Tudor 41m with red bezel (which some TDs call "Heritage 2016 Black Bay Shield ZF")? but are there various V1, V2 etc?
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Tudor bb 41 red heritage?
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The v1 , V2 etc are previous incantations that have subsequently been superceded and now only available through m2m . If you buy today from a TD it will be the current version the V4 which is a 'super rep ' on the NWBIG Consensual List
There was but i think it was lost when this site crashed a while back . It is a long term rep copied immediately on release with the original Rose ETA version then swapped to Shield with 2016 release and it whipped through the versions 1, 2 , 3 etc . It has been out in this last v4 shield version for over 3 years . So there must be a lot of info on watch even if you can't find a GEN comparison , some of it will be archived and need some application and effort to access .
What is it you want to know ?
i am looking on the forum and i would not disturb before i finish the search. I wanted to observe a comparison between gen and rep (I really like Tudor and I have often had it on my hands) to understand what differences there are and what limits the rep has. Anyway thanks for the answers, you have been very kind
The answer is ! It is a pretty spot on replica that won't be called out on your wrist very gen like . However like EVERY rep on the the NWBIG list, even those at the top in the super rep category it has a number of minor flaws . The centre pin has a hole the gen has a cap , the dial printing is a little thinner and less 3D than the gen . It had the wrong inscription in the clasp , but now this has been corrected . It is still not as sharp as it is laser edged rather than engraved . In fact all the rear of the case are perhaps not quite as sharp as gen ,caseback engravings , serial/model number on lugs .
The truth is 95% of people won't know what they are looking at . From the remaining people 99% of those won't notice the flaws ! They will need to know what they are looking for and examine the watch possibly with the gen . I as a rep buyer can spot a ZF from the gen by looking at the centre pin of the hand stack in seconds , so will experienced forum members but most people aren't us .
One problem is ZF invest a lot of effort into making their reps look like the real thing , but their QC and build quality isn't always the best look out for wonky markers etc . The one i have is spot on QC wise everything was straight . However the movement needed a service OOTB , and the people at the factory decided to leave out the caseback gasket or fully tighten the caseback. So anywhere near water would have been a leak like sieve scenario .
To be fair get a good one and it would be hard to spend a better $300 ( with delivery ) on a replica .
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I looked at the photos on the site of a TD (intimate) and those of the gen on the Tudor site but I can't see the defect you were saying regarding the central pin of the hands. Anyway if I had to decide on this Tudor, if the QC photos are good (straight markers) can I feel comfortable? As for the movement, do those who sell now need a review immediately? I would like to choose a "reliable" movement. P.S. on the sites of the TD is 288 + about 50 shipping. So about $ 338. I am undecided between this Tudor and the Omega AT 8900. I like them both very much
My point regarding minor flaws and not having a clue what you are looking for .
Try looking again on the genuine the CP is solid a slightly raised cap . On the ZF replica the centre pin has a tiny hole like a Rolex .
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Yes if the QC is straight you are fine . Regarding the movement the Tudor has an Asian 2824 a good workehorse movement usually very good out of the box ( the Chinese factories have been perfecting them for years ) , i was just unlucky . They are also very easy to service and repair if anything goes wrong . If you are new to reps and looking for a reliable movement then 99.9% of forum members will tell you to go for a watch with an Asian ETA clone like the 2824 . Now it is serviced mine is spot on .
I'm assuming you are going for a VSF AT . These are again banging reps ( from forum consensus ) but have a custom 'superclone movement ' which will be harder to get serviced or repair if anything goes wrong . If it any consolation though my rep next watch will be an VSF AT or SMP maybe both . I have a gen Man On The Moon , and a vintage SeaMaster but want another couple of Omega's for my collection .
With regards price my TD gives me a discount ( long term buyer etc ) and being in the UK no triangle shipping etc so i get cheaper shipping than $50 . I would guess i would probably get the watch a little south of $300
Regards which one you'll probably end up buying both . Once you have one on your wrist you will be hooked and probably buy the other anyway .
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