TSWatch - Listing a KW/V6 Factory 111 (Thoughts ???)

[Ruski91]

Hey guys, i was making my daily rounds and stumbled upon this, listed as a V6 (Kw) PAM111:
http://www.tswatchltd.com/16068-pa16068-v6-factory-pam111-n-black-dial-ss-lt-1-1-asian-6497.html


Questions are - why would V6 be getting into the game with the 111 at this point (Especially since it does not seem there are any improvements to the movement). So i wanted to post this here for discussion and thoughts as to what is going on here any why. Pics:

 

[shelby1501]

Yup! I saw it on few sites, best priced at $198 I think. I doubt it's the same or better than Noob but I would like to hear opinions too.

 

[ALE7575]

I saw this watch yesterday
It looks promising and finish seems very good
Just to see if maker is using the same case as Kuvarsit in Boutiques with the weird position of lug screws and a bit inaccurate shape of the lugs. We cannot see that from the angle of TSWatches pics
That would be not acceptable at this moment, since Noob is applying improvements in V3 case like it seems is making with last batches of PAM 390

Anyway it could be a very good new because in this way Noob will be forced to apply all new improvements in V3 case for all versions

ALE

 

[Jonj480]

I just received QC pics from my Noob version today from my TD. Looks very similar, I am noticing some differences on the strap though.

 

[peterpl]

Because the 111 is one of the most popular selling watches due to its accuracy hence why V6 want some of the money pie as well.

 

[kilowattore]

I think they might be using cases produced for their 8 days line that is not selling so well.

 

[ALE7575]

I think they might be using cases produced for their 8 days line that is not selling so well.

I'm afraid that (maybe better I'm sure)

This is just the reason of my doubts

ALE

 

[mysterio]

I thought the main reason for the 8 days range failing to catch on was the fact that they used Luminor cases built for the OP XI or the rep A6497 movement, which is wrong for the 8 days which is using the slightly thinner P.5000 movement. But it would be perfectly fine for using in the A6497 based PAM111. Pity about the lug screw holes, they look to have the characteristic KW placement.

 

[ALE7575]

I thought the main reason for the 8 days range failing to catch on was the fact that they used Luminor cases built for the OP XI or the rep A6497 movement, which is wrong for the 8 days which is using the slightly thinner P.5000 movement. But it would be perfectly fine for using in the A6497 based PAM111. Pity about the lug screw holes, they look to have the characteristic KW placement.

Yes, unfortunately it seems that

With the current improvements of Noob V3 applied to PAM 390 case I think KW old flaws are not yet acceptable.

Anyway the finish will be awesome too

ALE

 

[COLDI]

I would stick with the noob

 

[Bozz]

old case, nice but the hole positions is slightly higher

 

[walkingcloud]

I would stick with noob for now but some competition is always a good thing in the rep world for future improvements

 

[hughesj]

Well, it has a better cg and crown than the noob V3. Probably better for someone who doesn't want to have to source external parts.

 

[cosmicgate]

It was already out in Sept, same time with the n-fac 417. ( refer pic).

There is a new version of 'v3' noob pam 111 recently but it looks like shit. These new noob 111 should be in the market in one or two months when vendor run out of stock and restock the new ones. Apparently noob changed boss again, hence the change in design.

 

[deOnn]

Ive been holding out for a 510 because i heard a possibility of one with rep 8 day movement. should i not wait and get a 111 instead?

 

[iggypop]

Ive been holding out for a 510 because i heard a possibility of one with rep 8 day movement. should i not wait and get a 111 instead?

I would get a 111 but it's up to you, I don't think the p5000 is that interesting to look at.

 

[Ruski91]

So looks like KW (v6F) has also released 005, 360, and 390:

I think the 360 is old news if i am not mistaken, but 005 and 390 is not something we have seen before from them. Nothing like a little friendly competition between makers. It makes this hobby better for us because they all try to out duel one another which consistently raises the bar for us

 

[mikeski1]

Ale what do you think of the 005 I have the noob 2.5 but am wondering if I should buy this and mix and match parts same goes for the 111 what do you think since your the master thanks

 

[ALE7575]

I will have to study these reps before doing comments
We would need to know if the case set is from KW , the same as used in KW Boutiques
Regarding dials I have the same doubts

ALE