Trio of unknowns

[Glossy]

Bought these three in the last fortnight off eBay. Most had already gone but got this 1312.
I know nothing about the maker. Came with a thick tan strap, so replaced with a rust suede and kept the Pan-marked buckle.

 

[Glossy]

I had a picture of some of the ones he was selling, and in there was this 380 so I got that too. I've seen the same elsewhere on rwi described as a "shitter" but I'm fine with it. Radiomirs are rare enough in the wild I can cope with it not being exact.
Stuck a Morellato bright red canvas strap on it. Not managed to find a Pan buckle for it yet.

 

[Glossy]

And then finally I was determined to get a Due and luckily the gold one he had left turned out to be a 908. It's so shiny it's hard to get a decent pic.
It came with a hideous green snake strap which stunk of cigars.
Didn't realise it wasn't a 38mm so it's on a 20mm strap I stupidly ordered until the purple croc in 22mm arrives.
Either way, the 42mm sits nice on the wrist. Again, manufacturer unknown.

 

[Glossy]

I already have a Getat PAM00112 sterile dial and a Manbushijie PAM00029 GMT ll Marina Militare so these will probably be my only reps.
If anyone recognises the makers from the images (apart from the 380 shitter!) let me know.

 

[papabear244]

The 908 looks nice. I would think only VSF were making those.

 

[KOT1917]

Hello.

The first two (1312 and 380(?)) are dhgate models for $100 of an objective price. If PAM1312 is not so scary yet, then PAM380 should at least decide whether to have AW, a logo on the dial or a sandwich in order to understand who he is, PAM183, PAM380 or PAM287.

The last VSF for me, here is a link to his thread, but it was not the most popular model on the forum, so there is not much information, although they are quite typical for VSF DUE.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/panerai/9501948-vsf-908-gold-fu-coming-out-soon

To dispel doubts, tell me: does PAM908 have an independent hour hand?

 

[Glossy]

KOT1917 I apologise for the late reply, but Russia's invasion of Ukraine forced me to walk away from social media. (I live between 3 of the biggest US airbases in the UK and my nerves are totally frazzled at the thought of nuclear war. Antidepressants are the only reason I'm back) (and still alive).

That said, thank you so much for the detailed response about the three watches.
Yes, the 908 does indeed have an independent hour hand. So a vsf it is. Nice to have that verified, particularly as the movement will be nicely detailed if I could get the back off.

The 380 I was fairly sure was a dhgate (or worse) anyway, partly because the fake push-button on the side and the text "luminor composite" on non-ceramic were the biggest errors, but Radiomir's not being that common is why I got it regardless.

The 1312 being dhgate makes sense - I should have known the movement would be more detailed if it had come from any of the TDs. I was a bit surprised that other 1312s on the forum are all described as having a whitish numerals whereas mine are more brown with a green lume and the brown numerals sit better with the brown text on the dial.
I like them all and I know I paid a lot more than they were worth but that was the appeal of eBay and I could have them in a couple of days instead of weeks/months from TDs.
I just hope I get chances to wear them.
Thanks again.

 

[KOT1917]

Yes, if there is an independent hour hand, then it is VSF.
It uses a clone of the P.9000, which is not correct for this model, but given the solid caseback, I don't think there are big problems, given that it is DUE (thickness), and gold (weight), so everything is fine.

Regarding the PAM1312, until 2020 the GEN had a beige lume and dial text, as well as a transparent caseback, and a machined P.9010. From 2020, a re-styling has been done and the design has changed.
The current PAM1312 VSF and TTF models copy the new look, while the old ZF and V6F used to do good reps of the old PAM1312 design in the same style as yours.