Thoughts on buying this vintage PAM?!?

[JCM1662]

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47mm all stainless steel
- old-style plexiglas (domed)
- vintage black calf in cracked leather
- glasback and the known pop-on ss-back to cover the glasback
- handwounded movement cal. 3602 with RLX styled bridges(russian pocket watch)
- screw down RLX/Brevet crown
- vintage styled sandwich dial (with darkened lume)

 

[Anubis]

Talk to Davidson, It'll be new, beautiful and cheaper.

 

[JCM1662]

Thanks Anubis...I am also talking with him...appreciate the input.

 

[horologie_unitas]

i think its a very interesting watch....and i like the way the movement looks....but...RUSSIAN !! - IMO......the last thing i want to touch !
other then that, 400 usd....is an ok price...i dare to say

 

[JCM1662]

yeah, 400 isnt too bad. hmmmm, man, I really like the vintage look.

 

[evildee]

I saw that FS post. $400 for that watch? What so special about it? It's a suck ass Russian movement isn't it?

http://www.ttwristwatch.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_46&products_id=665

 

[JCM1662]

"suck ass" always a lovely term.

is suck ass good or bad? ha

all kidding aside, Appreciate the candor ED!

 

[PAM1A]

....so I think I have to step in a bit.

1) I purchased the watch around 1.5 years ago....the cost was around US 380$ (the watch is unused, it was only trimmed vintage to give it an authentic look).
2) The changes and works on the watch were done by a watchmaker and he charged a big amount as well....you know what a watchmaker costs the hour!
3) the cracked calf strap and the huge GPF style buckle are no rep-crap....they were also US 110$ (and the strap is unused, just put on my wrist for the pics and after that the whole watch got back in the box).
4) I surfed the websites and photobuckets of most of our well known dealers....no chance to get this model anymore....and Davidsen has got beautiful vintage pieces, but he does not have this model and his watches are kind of "manufactored vintage / mechanichally vintage" my watch was aged by hand!

All in all I think US 400$ is a good price shipped to the buyers door....if someone will not like....he can pass.

...anyway, this was just to ...lets say justify my price....

Best wishes mates,
Theo

 

[JCM1662]

many thanks for all the input, this forum is terrific.

While waiting, I picked up another 63.

Still a bit undecided on the vintage.

Enzo, thanks for your 411 my friend, your vintage pieces sparked my whole obsession.

 

[THOR509]

that watch looks almost identical to davidsons 3646 buy it new from him i buying it from him for my next watch soon listen to enzo

 

[leftydna]

Can you post some additional pics here. like the back and the movement. While my first thought was you can get this from Davidsen, but I don't think his are that much less. On the other hand his vintage models copy the Rolex movement using the russian, and all in all you know what your getting from Davidsen and it quality right out of the box. Strap and buckle should be factored in also, again post pics. I can say I like, but wasn't tempted........ HEY it's NOT DESTRO otherwise I might have been all over it.

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LeftyDNA

....so I think I have to step in a bit.

1) I purchased the watch around 1.5 years ago....the cost was around US 380$ (the watch is unused, it was only trimmed vintage to give it an authentic look).
2) The changes and works on the watch were done by a watchmaker and he charged a big amount as well....you know what a watchmaker costs the hour!
3) the cracked calf strap and the huge GPF style buckle are no rep-crap....they were also US 110$ (and the strap is unused, just put on my wrist for the pics and after that the whole watch got back in the box).
4) I surfed the websites and photobuckets of most of our well known dealers....no chance to get this model anymore....and Davidsen has got beautiful vintage pieces, but he does not have this model and his watches are kind of "manufactored vintage / mechanichally vintage" my watch was aged by hand!

All in all I think US 400$ is a good price shipped to the buyers door....if someone will not like....he can pass.

...anyway, this was just to ...lets say justify my price....

Best wishes mates,
Theo

 

[leftydna]

Hi Enzo,

Well I have had many people say I live in a FANTASY world! LOL :lol:

Seriously though I love to hear your analysis on watches, along with your grasp of watchmaking and history!

Not meaning to hijack the post but I saw your post of the 2 hand dial for the titanium pam and since there seems to be a shortage of 056 and 117 pam reps was wondering if Davidsens ti could be used to make into one of these models temporarily using the 2 hand dial Destro till a proper Destro three hand dial could be had?

No back to your local thread. Pros and Cons as Enzo stated, like a lot of reps, I'm sure there is a good home for it here somewhere.

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[JCM1662]

Enzo, you'd be able to buy a small 3rd world country or a small tropical island if you had a sales section for your vintage pieces.

I really like the 6152-1, but...just my luck....this model is no longer being made and is unavailable.

 

[coltrim]

I'm no expert but I will say Davidsen does fantastic work and he's not much more expensive than the other big names. I've just got a 183 fromm him, superb, even the excellent quality strap!! bravo!!

 

[GolfBum]

Pam 6152/1

Hello all,
Purchased from Pam1A about l month ago. took about 7 days from Germany to Los Angeles.

 

[leftydna]

Re: Pam 6152/1

Hey. looks like a nice watch though your photo skills might actually be worse than mine, BUT start your own thread, and read up on the photo threads, including how to post the img in the thread!

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LeftyDNA

Hello all,
Purchased from Pam1A about l month ago. took about 7 days from Germany to Los Angeles.

 

[JCM1662]

Thanks for everyone's input. I've talked w Davidsen and we've decided to build one, in line with exactly what I am looking...woo hoo!!!

Pics to follow.

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