This is part two of my Panerai Power Reserve Reviews. In this installment I’ll be taking a close look at the PAM057C. Let’s start with an overview of the power reserve models.
Very low grade versions of these watches exist in Chinese 21J form. But the best versions ever made have only been repped by Watch Honpo and DSN. These watches from Honpo and DSN actually use the same genuine Swiss movements as the gen model: the 2892-2 with 9040 Soprod power reserve module.
Honpo only repped the 27A and 28A. DSN has done a much more complete line. He makes three different models in several different series. Here's the full list
Black dial
027A: SS with 1997 T dial
027B: SS with 1998 L dial
Black Hobnail
028A: PVD with 1997 T dial
028B: PVD with 1998 L dial
028J: PVD with 2006 L dial
Tobacco Hobnail
057C: Ti with 1999 L dial
Now for the PAM057C:
Wrist Shots:
The watch is known for its gorgeous tobacco hobnail surface. It’s widely regarded as one of the most beautiful reps ever made…but how accurate is it? Let’s find out together.
The Dial:
Enough can’t be said about the tobacco hobnail. It is unparalleled in the rep world. The hobnail its self seems to be 100% accurate to gen, which is shocking considering the level of detail necessary to recreate the surface texture. Also note the accuracy of the print. The quality/crispness of the printing is very much the same between the rep and gen. There is a minor font issue in PANERAI, where the “R†seems to be slightly too large, but this is mostly hidden by the hobnail texture on the 057. Finally the lume application on the DSN dial is a bit too flat. Gen has a nice raised sausage profile.
GEN
REP
The color varies depending on the lighting indoors is a dark chocolate brown outdoors it is more like a milk chocolate.
GEN
Outdoor light
REP
Indoor light
Outdoor light
The main concerns on this dial is the margin between the indicies and the rehaut. The A Series for both the 27A and the 28A is perfect and totally gen like. But after the A Series Panerai changed the spacing between the indices and rehaut making the gap much more narrow. DSNs and Honpo’s spacing on the A series is perfect, but not accurate on the B and C series dials.
GEN
REP
This is actually what drove me away from the 057C. The margins on that dial are very incorrect. Since I've been building modding and shaping my own Pre-V watches, this variance from the gen would have bothered me.
Notice on the gen the L Swiss Made L is very close, almost touching the rehaut, But on the DSN the numbers and indicies have the same spacing as the A Series that leave about 1mm distance from the rehaut.
Power Reserve Module:
The detail of the text and depth of the recess seems to be very accurate. I will repeat the pictures used above.
GEN
REP
Hands:
Overall the shape and length of the hands is very accurate, with the small exception being made for the position of the lume dot on the seconds hand, the gen is placed about 0.25mm closer to the tip. I have gen soprod seconds hands on both of my personal power reserve builds and I can tell you first hand that the DSN seconds hand is accurate enough to not bother me. The Honpo on the other hand is way too close to the tip. This makes DSN the Soprod hand stack champion!!!
Crystal/Cyclops:
Now that I have had about 10 DSN 6mm Cyclops crystals pass through my hands. I have some good perspective. Overall they are too cloudy. When struck with bright light from a low angle. He did promise a batch of improved crystals, and delivered me one that was so good that it looked gen. I kid you not. See for yourself:
But since then he has delivered me another with the same low quality, so I can’t be sure I wasn’t just lucky
Regardless the crystal above is one of the best out of the box 6mm Cyclops crystal I have ever seen. So the potential is there.
Notice on the Cyclops a slight "frozen Halo" as Ale calls it, but check out the gen. You see the same effect.
GEN
REP
Case/Bezel:
It isn't 100% gen shape, but it is pretty close. There are definite differences in the lugs. The DSN has a bit of a hump on the top edge of the lug. The gen has a smooth slope. On the bezel: the slope and height look correct to me.
GEN
REP
Some lug ripple is evident, but overall finish is quite decent and comparable to H Factory for sure:
CG:
DSN has actually done quite a nice job improving his CGs. The lever tip shape is still off and the top is a bit too flat, but overall at first glance…. Really not a bad effort!
GEN
REP
Crown:
The case is closed on the quality and accuracy of the DSN crowns. They are amazing… It’s already been said in my other review. You probably missed it… Take another look.
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=183193
Gen Ti on the left, DSN Stainless on the right
Screws:
The first time I changed a strap I had to be careful to seat the screw correctly before tightening it. It felt a little rough, but only the FIRST time. I almost think that I broke the thread in by seating it correctly. I haven't had a problem since then through MANY strap changes. The CG screws however do seem to be tapped a little rough. I recommend care when working with the CG screws, but this goes for any rep.
Case Back:
The case back is a slight weakness. In this day ther is ZERO excuse for the inside of the CB to not say "SWISS MADE" That's just lazy that it doesn't have that detail. But overall this is one of DSNs better casebacks. Placement of the text and dots seems good with some minor font size issues. I have to say though, I have been spoiled by the 100% accurate Honpo casebacks. They are shocking. Even the inside of the caseback is 1:1. DSN falls well short of that, but still not bad. Check out Gen versus DSN and as a bonus… some Honpo shots as an example of “doing things the gen wayâ€
GEN
REP
Honpo
Movement:
Simply AWESOME! [/B]One of my main reasons for wanting a DSN power reserve. In the first 60 hours of wear, it only gained 2 seconds. This IS the gen movement. Given, it is missing the decorated rotor and movement ring with pearlage, which the honpo actualy includes. Eitherway, it is Genuine Swiss goodness. Once again I will compare Gen to DSN to Honpo
GEN
REP
Honpo versus gen
Lume:
I can’t find my lume shot of the 057C, but I do have a lume study of DSNs vintage lume from a pervious review.
The DSN is flanked below by a Noob 299 and my Rolli 002A with AUTHENTIC SWISS RC Tritec lume. The DSN lume isn't the best, but this is intended to be a tritium lumed watch, which degrades and weakens over time. This doesn't bother me.
Noob - LEFT; DSN - CENTER; RC Tritec - RIGHT
after 2 minutes:
after 7 minutes:
These weren't my best lume shots. It is much brighter in person
Conclusion:
This is one of the finest replicas ever made in terms of beauty and quality of movement. If DSN ever decides to fix the dial, we will have a nominee for SUPER REP. I hope you enjoyed the read.
Very low grade versions of these watches exist in Chinese 21J form. But the best versions ever made have only been repped by Watch Honpo and DSN. These watches from Honpo and DSN actually use the same genuine Swiss movements as the gen model: the 2892-2 with 9040 Soprod power reserve module.
Honpo only repped the 27A and 28A. DSN has done a much more complete line. He makes three different models in several different series. Here's the full list
Black dial
027A: SS with 1997 T dial
027B: SS with 1998 L dial
Black Hobnail
028A: PVD with 1997 T dial
028B: PVD with 1998 L dial
028J: PVD with 2006 L dial
Tobacco Hobnail
057C: Ti with 1999 L dial
Now for the PAM057C:
Wrist Shots:
The watch is known for its gorgeous tobacco hobnail surface. It’s widely regarded as one of the most beautiful reps ever made…but how accurate is it? Let’s find out together.
The Dial:
Enough can’t be said about the tobacco hobnail. It is unparalleled in the rep world. The hobnail its self seems to be 100% accurate to gen, which is shocking considering the level of detail necessary to recreate the surface texture. Also note the accuracy of the print. The quality/crispness of the printing is very much the same between the rep and gen. There is a minor font issue in PANERAI, where the “R†seems to be slightly too large, but this is mostly hidden by the hobnail texture on the 057. Finally the lume application on the DSN dial is a bit too flat. Gen has a nice raised sausage profile.
GEN
REP
The color varies depending on the lighting indoors is a dark chocolate brown outdoors it is more like a milk chocolate.
GEN
Outdoor light
REP
Indoor light
Outdoor light
The main concerns on this dial is the margin between the indicies and the rehaut. The A Series for both the 27A and the 28A is perfect and totally gen like. But after the A Series Panerai changed the spacing between the indices and rehaut making the gap much more narrow. DSNs and Honpo’s spacing on the A series is perfect, but not accurate on the B and C series dials.
GEN
REP
This is actually what drove me away from the 057C. The margins on that dial are very incorrect. Since I've been building modding and shaping my own Pre-V watches, this variance from the gen would have bothered me.
Notice on the gen the L Swiss Made L is very close, almost touching the rehaut, But on the DSN the numbers and indicies have the same spacing as the A Series that leave about 1mm distance from the rehaut.
Power Reserve Module:
The detail of the text and depth of the recess seems to be very accurate. I will repeat the pictures used above.
GEN
REP
Hands:
Overall the shape and length of the hands is very accurate, with the small exception being made for the position of the lume dot on the seconds hand, the gen is placed about 0.25mm closer to the tip. I have gen soprod seconds hands on both of my personal power reserve builds and I can tell you first hand that the DSN seconds hand is accurate enough to not bother me. The Honpo on the other hand is way too close to the tip. This makes DSN the Soprod hand stack champion!!!
Crystal/Cyclops:
Now that I have had about 10 DSN 6mm Cyclops crystals pass through my hands. I have some good perspective. Overall they are too cloudy. When struck with bright light from a low angle. He did promise a batch of improved crystals, and delivered me one that was so good that it looked gen. I kid you not. See for yourself:
But since then he has delivered me another with the same low quality, so I can’t be sure I wasn’t just lucky
Regardless the crystal above is one of the best out of the box 6mm Cyclops crystal I have ever seen. So the potential is there.Notice on the Cyclops a slight "frozen Halo" as Ale calls it, but check out the gen. You see the same effect.
GEN
REP
Case/Bezel:
It isn't 100% gen shape, but it is pretty close. There are definite differences in the lugs. The DSN has a bit of a hump on the top edge of the lug. The gen has a smooth slope. On the bezel: the slope and height look correct to me.
GEN
REP
Some lug ripple is evident, but overall finish is quite decent and comparable to H Factory for sure:
CG:
DSN has actually done quite a nice job improving his CGs. The lever tip shape is still off and the top is a bit too flat, but overall at first glance…. Really not a bad effort!
GEN
REP
Crown:
The case is closed on the quality and accuracy of the DSN crowns. They are amazing… It’s already been said in my other review. You probably missed it… Take another look.
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=183193
Gen Ti on the left, DSN Stainless on the right
Screws:
The first time I changed a strap I had to be careful to seat the screw correctly before tightening it. It felt a little rough, but only the FIRST time. I almost think that I broke the thread in by seating it correctly. I haven't had a problem since then through MANY strap changes. The CG screws however do seem to be tapped a little rough. I recommend care when working with the CG screws, but this goes for any rep.
Case Back:
The case back is a slight weakness. In this day ther is ZERO excuse for the inside of the CB to not say "SWISS MADE" That's just lazy that it doesn't have that detail. But overall this is one of DSNs better casebacks. Placement of the text and dots seems good with some minor font size issues. I have to say though, I have been spoiled by the 100% accurate Honpo casebacks. They are shocking. Even the inside of the caseback is 1:1. DSN falls well short of that, but still not bad. Check out Gen versus DSN and as a bonus… some Honpo shots as an example of “doing things the gen wayâ€
GEN
REP
Honpo
Movement:
Simply AWESOME! [/B]One of my main reasons for wanting a DSN power reserve. In the first 60 hours of wear, it only gained 2 seconds. This IS the gen movement. Given, it is missing the decorated rotor and movement ring with pearlage, which the honpo actualy includes. Eitherway, it is Genuine Swiss goodness. Once again I will compare Gen to DSN to Honpo
GEN
REP
Honpo versus gen
Lume:
I can’t find my lume shot of the 057C, but I do have a lume study of DSNs vintage lume from a pervious review.
The DSN is flanked below by a Noob 299 and my Rolli 002A with AUTHENTIC SWISS RC Tritec lume. The DSN lume isn't the best, but this is intended to be a tritium lumed watch, which degrades and weakens over time. This doesn't bother me.
Noob - LEFT; DSN - CENTER; RC Tritec - RIGHT
after 2 minutes:
after 7 minutes:
These weren't my best lume shots. It is much brighter in person
Conclusion:
This is one of the finest replicas ever made in terms of beauty and quality of movement. If DSN ever decides to fix the dial, we will have a nominee for SUPER REP. I hope you enjoyed the read.
