Tapping the Navi bezel - hollow sound?

[subzero1]

Hi, question for the navi owners here, when you tap on the crystal or bezel do you get a really cheap sounding hollow rattle type of noise? I assume its' from the fact that the bezel "floats" to allow it to turn smoothly in each direction without all the clicking that other bezels (such as a rollie sub or omega PO) have.

Do gen navi's also have this characteristic, or are the more "solid"?

And, is there any way to fix this?

 

[hk45ca]

mine does it and it magnifies the noise from the rotor. the ss bracelet seems to make it resonate more than leather. if there is a way to fix it i don't know what it is. i sent one back for this reason and the factory had to change the case. it is pressed on and according to them it can't be tightened. the new case they put on my watch is doing it also. i have no solution and it sounds like crap to me.

 

[Importr]

The sound could be caused one of these reasons:

1) the slide rule ring is not seated fully - the glass needs to be pushed further in

2) the bezel itself is not screwed on tightly enough. This was an issue on the early 7753 Navi reps; now pretty much all of the new generation of Navis have fairly good QC

The slide rule bezel should glide smoothly, but with a degree of resistance. There is a rubber o-ring under the bezel that supposedly keeps the dust out, but it's not greased enough. This causes the bezel to feel stiff and sometimes a feint grinding noise is heard.

The gen Navitimer has a smooth but firm bezel motion. You'd have to knock it for it to move accidentally. About the same amount of force as turning the manual heater controls as in a car...

 

[hk45ca]

The sound could be caused one of these reasons:

1) the slide rule ring is not seated fully - the glass needs to be pushed further in

2) the bezel itself is not screwed on tightly enough. This was an issue on the early 7753 Navi reps; now pretty much all of the new generation of Navis have fairly good QC

The slide rule bezel should glide smoothly, but with a degree of resistance. There is a rubber o-ring under the bezel that supposedly keeps the dust out, but it's not greased enough. This causes the bezel to feel stiff and sometimes a feint grinding noise is heard.

The gen Navitimer has a smooth but firm bezel motion. You'd have to knock it for it to move accidentally. About the same amount of force as turning the manual heater controls as in a car...

these navitimers have the bezel pressed on in some fashion and isn't repairable according to the factory. that is why they changed the case on mine. i sent this one to rbj and he didn't see a way to readily repair it either. it isn't made to where you can remove it or tighten it up.

if some one has figured out a way to repair this problem please let us know. so far the factory and rbj couldn't figure it out.

 

[hk45ca]

double post edit.

 

[2manywatches]

I have a gen gmt and had a heritage, both did it. When you tap on the crystal, they sound and feel fake. Reps jsut seem to do it a bit more.

 

[Importr]

[quote="hk45ca
these navitimers have the bezel pressed on in some fashion and isn't repairable according to the factory. that is why they changed the case on mine. i sent this one to rbj and he didn't see a way to readily repair it either. it isn't made to where you can remove it or tighten it up.

if some one has figured out a way to repair this problem please let us know. so far the factory and rbj couldn't figure it out.[/quote]

Hmm, the Navi i just got from King (with new 7750) has a screw on bezel, as did my very first Navi 21600vph 7753

this is the new one, with slide rule removed, when I was brushing the case:

there are 3 screws which hold the inner bezel - which sandwiches the outer bezel to the case.

 

[Yannou]

I have the same issue with my Navitimer World GMT....but as I'm not an expert....

 

[subzero1]

[quote="hk45ca
these navitimers have the bezel pressed on in some fashion and isn't repairable according to the factory. that is why they changed the case on mine. i sent this one to rbj and he didn't see a way to readily repair it either. it isn't made to where you can remove it or tighten it up.

if some one has figured out a way to repair this problem please let us know. so far the factory and rbj couldn't figure it out.

Hmm, the Navi i just got from King (with new 7750) has a screw on bezel, as did my very first Navi 21600vph 7753

this is the new one, with slide rule removed, when I was brushing the case:

there are 3 screws which hold the inner bezel - which sandwiches the outer bezel to the case.[/quote]

I saw that too when I disassembled mine to get the crystal out for the AR run. But the screws were already in there as tight as they would go, so I wasn't able to tighten them down any more than they already were Are you able to tighten your's down to make the bezel more solid?

 

[hk45ca]

[quote="hk45ca
these navitimers have the bezel pressed on in some fashion and isn't repairable according to the factory. that is why they changed the case on mine. i sent this one to rbj and he didn't see a way to readily repair it either. it isn't made to where you can remove it or tighten it up.

if some one has figured out a way to repair this problem please let us know. so far the factory and rbj couldn't figure it out.

Hmm, the Navi i just got from King (with new 7750) has a screw on bezel, as did my very first Navi 21600vph 7753

this is the new one, with slide rule removed, when I was brushing the case:

there are 3 screws which hold the inner bezel - which sandwiches the outer bezel to the case.[/quote]

all i can tell you is what i was told. joe couldn't fix mine and the factory had to change the case the first time. if tightening the screws fixes it why didn't they do it? when i received the watch back the chrono pushers had the blue protective coating on them and the case was flawless so i know they changed it. the case is about 40.00 because it comes with the crystal, bezel and pushers so if they could have just tightened 3 screws to fix it i am sure they would have. 40.00 is allot of money in china.

 

[Importr]

I didnt need to, as the bezel was fine.

but on previous Navis, the bezel was floating, and yes, the screws were loose!

If you do indeed have a loose bezel, maybe you could try grinding a tiny amount of metal off the inner bezel (with screw holes).

Use a meadium to fine sandpaper on a piece of glass, and rub the inner bezel in a circular motion?

 

[hk45ca]

I didnt need to, as the bezel was fine.

but on previous Navis, the bezel was floating, and yes, the screws were loose!

If you do indeed have a loose bezel, maybe you could try grinding a tiny amount of metal off the inner bezel (with screw holes).

Use a meadium to fine sandpaper on a piece of glass, and rub the inner bezel in a circular motion?

what about a thicker o-ring under the outer bezel?

 

[Importr]

i thought about that, but the standard o-ring is very very hard to get back into place....well at least I thought it was anyway!

Sort of like getting a sleeping bag into a stuffsac....push one direction and it pops out from another! Frustrating

 

[hk45ca]

i thought about that, but the standard o-ring is very very hard to get back into place....well at least I thought it was anyway!

Sort of like getting a sleeping bag into a stuffsac....push one direction and it pops out from another! Frustrating

i understand exactly what you are saying. well, i am willing to try anything at this point. i love my Navi but i rarely wear it because of this. i will get it torn down and try the screws and bezel fitment myself if i have to, it would be a good excuse to get the crystal ar'ed anyway. lol

 

[Importr]

good luck, i practically wrecked an old Navi rep to get to this stage in Navi modding. Scratched slide rule, stripped threads on caseback, mashed up o-rings etc etc!

When you have it AR'd it'll look awesome - I am yet to see a Navi rep with a very convincing AR coat

 

[2manywatches]

Im thing about getting a gmt and sending it to rbj for AR, any breitling rep must have strong AR

 

[hk45ca]

good luck, i practically wrecked an old Navi rep to get to this stage in Navi modding. Scratched slide rule, stripped threads on caseback, mashed up o-rings etc etc!

When you have it AR'd it'll look awesome - I am yet to see a Navi rep with a very convincing AR coat

the only thing saving me on this one is that it has the blue dial and it glows like a blue sub. it makes it harder to tell if it is ar or blue dial you are looking at. lol