T Made Dial, does it have tritium ?

[smokiedabong]

Does the gen T Dial for 243 have real tritium tubes that are painted over? Or is it just luminescent paint?
I've heard that they stopped using tritium in these watches and gen T Dial is just painted with superluminova. I am planing on getting a gen dial for my 243 if it has tritium tubes.
Also does anyone know the type of tritium tubes used in these dials if any. How they compare to a T25 tube ?

 

[Bonesey]

If it has a T on it then it is real tritium. Not tritium tubes.

 

[Rogerthat]

No tubes
Dial has genuine tritium paint though which they have stopped using years ago when they switched to the L dials

 

[smokiedabong]

How can it be real tritium in a paint? Tritium is a radioactive gas. It needs to be enclosed in a glass tube. It releases radiation and when the electrons hit the phosphor layer in the paint applied over or inside the tube, it causes it to glow. So if there is no glass container, there's no real tritium , No real tritium means no source of radiation which means no self sustaining illumination.

 

[R2D4]

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium_illumination"]Tritium illumination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Look up Radium girls and Tritinited paint or compounds. There is Tritium gas and there was a tritinited paint, dirived from Tritium in powder form.

 

[smokiedabong]

Look up Radium girls and Tritinited paint or compounds. There is Tritium gas and there was a tritinited paint, dirived from Tritium in powder form.

There is no such thing as Tritium in powder form. Tritium is a hydrogen isotope, so unless you keep it under extreme temperatures and pressure, there is no way you can make a powder out of hydrogen. One radioactive thing that can be made into a paint is radium which is a rare earth metal, but that was banned long time ago and the dial doesn't say radium dial.
I guess they must have had tiny glass containers under that paint, otherwise "Tritium Dial" would be false advertising.
Anyway I see that they stop using T Dials in '97 , so all the gen T Dials I'll find would be older than 12 years which is past the half-life of tritium, not to much glow left to them. i guess I'll have to settle for a Ball watch or find somebody who can install tritium tubes in a 243 dial

Searched for "Tritinited paint " on Google:

"No results containing all your search terms were found.

Your search - Tritinited paint - did not match any documents."

 

[Bonesey]

Jesus, you're really not listening are you.

Tritium paint on watches is a mixture of tritium (incorporated into a polymer or other carrying agent) and phosphor. Tritium is naturally radio-active and needs no external source of light or charge to work. Tritium does not glow. As it decays, tritium emits beta radiation, which is a bunch of excited electrons that in turns excite the electron in the phosphor atoms making them emit photons, or light, as they return to their ground (non-excited) state: the phosphor GLOWS. Phosphor can also be excited by UV light from the sun or other light sources. Thus, the tritium paint relies on tritium radioactivity to make the phosphor glow in the dark, not any charge from external light source.

Tritium, has a half life of 12.3 years, a half-life is simply the time it takes HALF of the tritium to decay. So, as long as you have enough tritium in your paint, the watch will glow in the dark for years, not hours or days, without any need of charging. If your watch stops glowing after an hour in the dark, it means that the glow came from the light exciting the phosphor atoms, not from the tritium. In other word, most of the tritium in your watch is GONE! This is quite possible even with a fresh coat of tritium paint if that paint has been sitting around in the watchmaker's shop or supplier's shelf for years. The 12.3 years of half-life starts from the second the tritium is born (i.e. freshly produced), not from the time the paint is applied to your watch.

There is no little glass tubes underneath the dial markers.

 

[sharrkey]

Every days a School day, some interesting info.


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opcorn:

 

[Ed911]

Interesting radioactive thread. Thanks ;-)

 

[Billio]

Dont eat yellow lume opcorn:

 

[Cromag]

We use tritium tubes in out custom flashlights. -to help find the in the dark

I was thinking all the things in this thread recently. Tubes a are bit large for watches though.

There's a tritium vial in the top of the PD. it's the 5th from the right below;

Sorry no glowing pics ATM

 

[sms]

So what does my Ball have? Tubes?

 

[smokiedabong]

Jesus, you're really not listening are you.

Tritium paint on watches is a mixture of tritium (incorporated into a polymer or other carrying agent) and phosphor. Tritium is naturally radio-active and needs no external source of light or charge to work. Tritium does not glow. As it decays, tritium emits beta radiation, which is a bunch of excited electrons that in turns excite the electron in the phosphor atoms making them emit photons, or light, as they return to their ground (non-excited) state: the phosphor GLOWS. Phosphor can also be excited by UV light from the sun or other light sources. Thus, the tritium paint relies on tritium radioactivity to make the phosphor glow in the dark, not any charge from external light source.

Tritium, has a half life of 12.3 years, a half-life is simply the time it takes HALF of the tritium to decay. So, as long as you have enough tritium in your paint, the watch will glow in the dark for years, not hours or days, without any need of charging. If your watch stops glowing after an hour in the dark, it means that the glow came from the light exciting the phosphor atoms, not from the tritium. In other word, most of the tritium in your watch is GONE! This is quite possible even with a fresh coat of tritium paint if that paint has been sitting around in the watchmaker's shop or supplier's shelf for years. The 12.3 years of half-life starts from the second the tritium is born (i.e. freshly produced), not from the time the paint is applied to your watch.

There is no little glass tubes underneath the dial markers.

Now it makes sense, I wasn't aware of this technique of incorporating tritium gas into a polymer, that sounds pretty inefficient as the gas quantity is pretty small. I know what tritium is and exactly how it works, I have all kind of products using it, even have a tritium vial on my keyring that I carry with me everyday and I've learned one thing , less gas means less brightness.
I did some research now on tritium incorporated into a polymer and apparently this is capable of emitting only a radiation of 2 mCi which is a lot less than the 100 mCi of a glass vial found in Ball watches or vials found in a cheap $99 tritium watch of eBay. So the luminosity of those dials must have been pretty bad after the initial afterglow. .

 

[Bonesey]

So what does my Ball have? Tubes?

Yes.

 

[Bonesey]

Now it makes sense, I wasn't aware of this technique of incorporating tritium gas into a polymer, that sounds pretty inefficient as the gas quantity is pretty small. I know what tritium is and exactly how it works, I have all kind of products using it, even have a tritium vial on my keyring that I carry with me everyday and I've learned one thing , less gas means less brightness.
I did some research now on tritium incorporated into a polymer and apparently this is capable of emitting only a radiation of 2 mCi which is a lot less than the 100 mCi of a glass vial found in Ball watches or vials found in a cheap $99 tritium watch of eBay. So the luminosity of those dials must have been pretty bad after the initial afterglow. .

We were telling you it was tritium in a powdered form, we're not exactly trying to fool you. The exact specifics of how they turned it into a powdered form is irrelevant.

 

[smokiedabong]

We were telling you it was tritium in a powdered form, we're not exactly trying to fool you. The exact specifics of how they turned it into a powdered form is irrelevant.

Hence the confusion, it's like saying air in a powdered form. Air incorporated into paint, now that makes sense. I'm also not a native english speaker, so it may sound weird just to me.