Sound when winding Rolex

[Janes Bond]

Dear friends,
I bought a Clean Factory white-Panda Daytona two months ago from a TD(asian7750). It is the newest version and it looks incredible good.

The thing is when winding it from being completely out of power I can notice a little resistance, like gritty. As if sand where inside. It also does a noise.

Additionally, after I do around 30 turns, the watch doesn’t start moving by itself and it is just when I take it with my hands (and shake/move) that start running.

I’ve seen different opinions on this. What do you guys think?

I am now draining the power reserve to do another test and a video of the issue

 

[Plaasbaas]

I am confused because I was under the impression that Clean does not have A7750.

Feeling a little gritty and hearing noise while the gears move could be within normal parameters or not. Since I can not feel or hear it it is all depending on your experience/expectation. Do you have any other mechanical watch to compare it to?

Ideally it should start by itself after 30 winds. If not this could indicate a beat error that's a bit high, but that's usually easily adjustable by a watchmaker.

 

[Janes Bond]

Asian7750 is the TD, the movement is SuperClone 4130

https://www.asian7750.cc/product_show.asp?P_id=7474

 

[Plaasbaas]

Asian7750 is the TD, the movement is SuperClone 4130

https://www.asian7750.cc/product_show.asp?P_id=7474

Ah sorry, yes that makes more sense.

 

[Janes Bond]

Ah sorry, yes that makes more sense.

Thank you!

In some videos some GEN Rolex makes that noise(I’ve seen datejust and a Sea Dweller) but others don’t…

 

[Plaasbaas]

Tolerances in Asian movements are bigger although the Asian 4130 is usually quite good, especially given the price difference to gen.

It all depends on how precise it has been manufactured and how well it was assembled and lubricated. A service can sometimes improve things significantly, but will be costly for a complicated movement like this.

 

[Janes Bond]

Tolerances in Asian movements are bigger although the Asian 4130 is usually quite good, especially given the price difference to gen.

It all depends on how precise it has been manufactured and how well it was assembled and lubricated. A service can sometimes improve things significantly, but will be costly for a complicated movement like this.

Thank you!
I’m thinking, next REP I will go for a less-complicated movement. Is it easy to find a good REP (as good as this Clean Factory) but with a simpler movement?

 

[Reaps]

So your 700 rep doesnt feel, or wimd like a 15k watch... shocking....

 

[Janes Bond]

So your 700 rep doesnt feel, or wimd like a 15k watch... shocking....

That’s something that I am very aware of. But as TD offers 1 year warranty I just want to confirm if it is normal, either in REP or GEN or both and take an action based on that.

 

[Plaasbaas]

Thank you!
I’m thinking, next REP I will go for a less-complicated movement. Is it easy to find a good REP (as good as this Clean Factory) but with a simpler movement?

The clone 4130 movement with its chronometer complication is really state of the art for Daytona's. If you want a Daytona don't look for any other movement. If yours is less good as the usual excellent quality I can't really tell. They normally wind very smoothly and start right away when manually wound.

If you are looking for models other than the Daytona with simpler movements you also find absolute top tier replicas. It takes some research but all you need to know can be found here in this great forum in the respective subsections.

 

[Janes Bond]

Hi guys!
Updating here: my Daytona has 54h power reserve. It still does this noise when winding but after 37 full turns it started moving by itself…

Some people say that Clean Daytona reaches +70h and now I wonder if probably this noise when winding could be related.

54h still seems impressive to me

 

[1breitling]

My clean 114060 did that. Sounded like sand from the beach was in the movement. After a lot of research I realized that it was somewhat normal. I just couldn't stand it though.

Now my VSF starbucks winding is as smooth as butter and hardly and resistance.

 

[Karbon74]

with the cost of a Clean Daytona, it's worth getting the movement serviced

pretty sure it will significantly change the feel

 

[WatchSmith.US]

Servicing is really your only option, and there’s no guarantee it’s going to wind any smoother afterward. Rep parts are not machined to the close and consistent tolerances of Swiss parts. Personally, if the timekeeping is good, I wouldn’t worry about it.

 

[Karbon74]

Servicing is really your only option, and there’s no guarantee it’s going to wind any smoother afterward. Rep parts are not machined to the close and consistent tolerances of Swiss parts. Personally, if the timekeeping is good, I wouldn’t worry about it.

as a watchmaker, have you ever tried to improve a clone movement by polishing some parts? or is it just not worth the time?

 

[WatchSmith.US]

as a watchmaker, have you ever tried to improve a clone movement by polishing some parts? or is it just not worth the time?

Most watchmakers will take diamantine and polish when necessary, but when parts have loose tolerances polishing is probably not going to help. But if you have plenty of time to experiment it won't hurt to try.

 

[Janes Bond]

The clone 4130 movement with its chronometer complication is really state of the art for Daytona's. If you want a Daytona don't look for any other movement. If yours is less good as the usual excellent quality I can't really tell. They normally wind very smoothly and start right away when manually wound.

If you are looking for models other than the Daytona with simpler movements you also find absolute top tier replicas. It takes some research but all you need to know can be found here in this great forum in the respective subsections.

Hi,
I’ve been trying to find what you mentioned: a Submariner top tier replica but with a simple movement, not as hard to maintain.
Could you please guide me a little bit? Thank you very much in advance Plaasbaas.

 

[asusundevils1971]

It takes some research but all you need to know can be found here in this great forum in the respective subsections

Submariner top tier replica but with a simple movement, not as hard to maintain.
Could you please guide me a little bit? Thank you very much in advance Plaasbaas.

He told you to do some research because all the information can be found on this forum. No one here is going to spoon feed you the information. In the two days you have been a member a lot of research / reading could have been done.

 

[braqueboots]

I have the sound as well on my GMF DD40

 

[Janes Bond]

I have the sound as well on my GMF DD40

I have the sound as well on my GMF DD40

I found that the noise could be normal. Probably it will get improved after servicing the watch but it is something not uncommon. I think we can be relaxed with that.

For me the strangest part was feeling that “resistance” of the watch to be winded but you even find it on GEN’s. (There are a few videos on YouTube of winding Rolexes and in those where the audio quality is good you can actually listening)