So what's the situation with the 104?

[johndoe12]

Hi guys,
I need your help. I have been away for a while and need a super accurate PAM to be able to wear them around people with gens...

I've read Ale's 104 post and it seems like the 104O is indeed a super rep? Unless I missed something?

Also, what do you guys think of the accuracy of the "ghost" model 237? Which one would be more accurate to the gen in your opinion?

Thank you!

 

[Perry]

The noob 104 is a great rep as is the 164. Whatever pam rep you buy I suggest getting a noob version.

 

[Spaggettio]

My first rep was a 104 Noob ^^^

My boss has a Gen 104. We sat there for an hour or so and couldnt tell the difference by looking at the watch.

Playing around with the movement was a different story as expected.

Just dont let the GEN owners play with it lol my boss was upset due to the rep being so accurate and went out and bought a real IWC LOL

 

[ALE7575]

That is clear in PAM GUIDE
PAM 104 O-series is one of the best replicas in the market nowadays. It is much better than the "old" PAM 237
If you like a similar GMT go to PAM 088 O-series Noob , same quality as PAM 104
ALE

 

[johndoe12]

Thank you guys! Thanks for th etip on the 104 Noob. What was the difference in the movement feel? Just curious.

I do really like the GMT. I love the 088, but I thought that the color of the subdial wasn't reproduced well and the 237 was closer to gen due to the entire dial just being black?

Is the new 088 as close to gen as the 104 is?? That would be fantastic!

 

[ALE7575]

Thank you guys! Thanks for th etip on the 104 Noob. What was the difference in the movement feel? Just curious.

I do really like the GMT. I love the 088, but I thought that the color of the subdial wasn't reproduced well and the 237 was closer to gen due to the entire dial just being black?

Is the new 088 as close to gen as the 104 is?? That would be fantastic!

Again, everything is in PAM GUIDE
You can get in GUIDE a link to a direct comparison GEN- REP Pam 088 O Noob
Inaccuracy of subdial is already an old thing
PAM 088 O Noob is much better than all PAM 237

Please make your homework and read PAM GUIDE

ALE

 

[johndoe12]

Thanks Ale! I read the reviews for both watches.

I didn't notice anyone say anything about the deployant clasp. If I get a OEM Black gator how accurate is the deployant clasp to the gen? I saw on some gen sites that some of the clasps have something written all over the clasp, but I'm not sure what's accurate.

Also, my concern is the 008 O has the concentric dial which according to the review on wrist-check is more pronounced than on the gen. Anyone know if it's obvious in real life? Like if I was sitting next to someone who owned a gen, would you be able to tell the difference?

As Spaggettio mentioned his boss couldn't tell the difference between the 104

 

[johndoe12]

Thanks guys,
So I went ahead and purchased a 104-O Noob from puretime.

Can someone comment on the accuracy of the rep deployant clasp? I ordered the rubber with deployant. I would like to get a gen strap but not sure if the deployant is accurate and if I should get a thumbnail buckle to go with a gen alligator?