Snowflake On Ebay.....

[Soxxgo2]

What's going on with this snowflake on ebay? Looks like a cartel case with a gen movement maybe? Hmmm. Seems like they're selling a franken on ebay which is probably not the greatet idea.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tudor-Snowf...368360?hash=item41ca6320e8:g:-mwAAOSwqVBZZdNK

 

[DVNE]

Not a cartel case. It is the more expensive Phong case which has the correct stem height.

 

[secfincorp]

looks fake to me. Do agree with DVNE case is good, either phong or vietnam case. and an aftermarket rotor to boot.

 

[Soxxgo2]

The case doesn't looks that good to me. Yeah it has the right caseback but the crown guards are bad and the crown is wrong too. I doubt this is a phong. Maybe @Hugop can confirm. Weird dial as well. This has to be someone on RWI. My question is why sell on ebay? Possibly trying to rip people off? This is not worth $1800. Not even close.

 

[Hugop]

Yeah, looks like Phong case and hands. The serial number is 1965 and that movement would not be correct. Hand set especially seconds hand is wrong.

 

[Hugop]

I dont think its a phong case seems to be more like a Vietnam case I have. Phong work will normally be more accurate to the serial number used. The serial number on my case like this sets it to 1968 (623xxx) but the case is engraved as a 9411. The initial transition to the snowflake dial away from the 7928 was around 1968. The problem with this case is that the initial model number for a snowflake with date was 7021 not 9411. 9411 was later in 1975 so the serial number should be in the 830xxx and above range. This particular vietnam case set has been offered lately on the bay and requires that the builder pull together the parts to finish it. This looks like a hodgepodge of what he has been able to find.

Here are a few pics of the one I have used to house my gen 94010 triangle dial. It is a much more accurate case for a later style build IMO.

 

[Soxxgo2]

I dont think its a phong case seems to be more like a Vietnam case I have. Phong work will normally be more accurate to the serial number used. The serial number on my case like this sets it to 1968 (623xxx) but the case is engraved as a 9411. The initial transition to the snowflake dial away from the 7928 was around 1968. The problem with this case is that the initial model number for a snowflake with date was 7021 not 9411. 9411 was later in 1975 so the serial number should be in the 830xxx and above range. This particular vietnam case set has been offered lately on the bay and requires that the builder pull together the parts to finish it. This looks like a hodgepodge of what he has been able to find.

Here are a few pics of the one I have used to house my gen 94010 triangle dial. It is a much more accurate case for a later style build IMO.

Appreciate the info. I think you're right about all that. Hopefully no one pays $1800 for that mess!

 

[tripdog]

LOL at that watch.

 

[johnlogan]

For sale is a very modified Tudor Submariner, the watch looks amazing. If you are okay with the amount of serviced parts listed below, you can have the watch without the price. Comes as is no accessories. Regulated to within 10s a day. On a grey NATO strap.

Specifications

- Dial: Genuine Beyeler refinished Tudor 9411/0 dial

- Case set: Replacement set with all factory engravings

- Crystal: German 25-127 tropic

- Movement : Genuine Swiss ETA 2784 with KIF shock protection and Tudor rotor

- Band: Grey 20mm NATO strap


Watch is located in Victoria, Australia.

International postage welcome, postage will have tracking and signature on delivery unless otherwise specified.

B

 

[Hugop]

For sale is a very modified Tudor Submariner, the watch looks amazing. If you are okay with the amount of serviced parts listed below, you can have the watch without the price. Comes as is no accessories. Regulated to within 10s a day. On a grey NATO strap.

Specifications

- Dial: Genuine Beyeler refinished Tudor 9411/0 dial

- Case set: Replacement set with all factory engravings

- Crystal: German 25-127 tropic

- Movement : Genuine Swiss ETA 2784 with KIF shock protection and Tudor rotor

- Band: Grey 20mm NATO strap


Watch is located in Victoria, Australia.

International postage welcome, postage will have tracking and signature on delivery unless otherwise specified.

B

B, is that your watch on the bay?

 

[johnlogan]

B, is that your watch on the bay?

No, seller informs it's a replacement case!

 

[Hugop]

No, seller informs it's a replacement case!

Why does he not sell it for a gen dial price and avoid the possible ramifications?

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[Hugop]

Just the dial that is. Unrefinished dials are bringing crazy money now. Not sure what a repaint would be worth. Hard to tell the quality from those pics.

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[Soxxgo2]

No, seller informs it's a replacement case!

But nowhere in the description does he say it's a replica. He carefully words his description so as to not mention it's a fake watch.

 

[Deepsea75]

May I ask what makes you guys think that this is sold by a RWI member?

Not very trust inviting for M2M and definitely, it seems only morons would buy luxury watches on the bay...

There are literally thousands of high value watches on Ebay at any given time of day... obviously selling like warm cookies.

What gives?

 

[Mike116]

But nowhere in the description does he say it's a replica. He carefully words his description so as to not mention it's a fake watch.

Looking at his sales feedback, there a couple of other sales that are descrbed as tudor homage builds. I remember a a couple of years back a member here pointed out a guy selling a few rolex frankens on ebay. Same kind of wording as this sale

 

[trailboss99]

This has to be someone on RWI.

What on earth makes you say such a thing? I see no reason to leap to that conclusion.

 

[Soxxgo2]

What on earth makes you say such a thing? I see no reason to leap to that conclusion.

Is this sarcasm?? I hope so lol

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[trailboss99]

Um, no. Please explain why this is so obviously an RWI member. SRSLY . . .

 

[Soxxgo2]

When I said it had to be someone from RWI what I meant was there is a high likelihood based on the fact that it's a very niche hobby and this is the largest resource for such information (that I know of). Not a guarantee, but likely. That's all I meant by that.

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