I am at work right now but will post pictures for you later. I got a 104 from DSN and love it. The bands it comes with are pretty crappy so I bought a Savage that I'd really nice. The lume is crazy bright and it keeps great time. Plus DSN is a great seller. I have a 164 coming from him too. Should be here by this weekend. If you hold off I will take side by side pics for you