Rolex Sub NoDate 114060 "Fuck'em--Supreme” project: an 1/1 star was born

[Hasslebank]

Rolex Sub NoDate 114060 "Supreme – Fuck’Em” project: an 1/1 star was born

Hi guys,

I thought to show you the evolution of one of my latest projects which made it happen with my partner in crime expert buddy watchsmith and his unlimited perseverance along this journey @hungaryrolex



It all started with a random sales I noticed of a quite shitty CS 114060 having that outstanding Fuck’em dial making me think to fully upgrade it












The best donor was supposed to be a VSF pre-raid 114060 (blasphemy I know LOL) but not really avail within EU..

Managed to source at the end one pristine piece with a brand new untouched bracelet (watch was used with an Oysterflex) just having some issues with the VS movement, which stopped sometimes for an unknown reason, so it was needed to service that as well.





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The idea was to put that nice dial into a case+shoes she deserves, equipped with matching correct lumed hands and pip, last but not least run by a mvm she also deserves, literally changing everything around

As expected none of the steps was smooth several obstacles arose such as:

• the Fuckem dial was definitely wider than the VSF case would accept so it had to be shaved with approx. 1mm closely watching to also avoid damaging the surface and the lacquer layer of the dial;
• the engraved caseback coming from the original case construction also didn’t fit with the VSF case, so had to be machined and finished also in order to keep its WR properties;
• the default VSF bezel had different pip lume color than the correct, newly sourced hands set, so it had to be also upgraded.
• sourced a new pip, but sh#t happened again, the VSF bezel broke also the new pip couldn’t be fixed the ordinary regular way, so we were thinking to drill the ceramic (! ) with an 0,8mm head, making it sure for the new pip to sit safe.

Some insight into the particular work stages FYI













































Finally -after almost 4 months of processes- the project has come to an end resulting

a true 1/1 Fuckem best scenario fun

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Thx

 

[daytonadude]

Awesome build and such perseverance!

 

[Mr.Swackhammer]

Stunning! Thanks for sharing

 

[thefallacy]

Cool build Im sure your watchsmith had fun making this one!

 

[Radirka]

In their faces... nice mod... or build... or - well, whatever it's called. Love it.

 

[diamonds]

Fantastic build!
Great photos!
Beautiful piece!

 

[Niktoine]

What a story !!
Congrats my friend !!

 

[trailboss99]

1:1? That's sarcasm, right? . . . RIGHT?!

 

[dharma]

It is a very nice watch my friend, and a great job.... but "Fuck em" font is different from gen...

 

[Stuvetjee]

you sure about that title mate? Looks like a fallen star tbh.

 

[Hasslebank]

guys, really?
it's a fun project, there is no need for any nitpicking here dial is just great like this and loved every stage of this process, as well as more than happy with the result, not sure i get the derogatory remark
Dont need to take it that serious, and yes, giving this title is also sarcasm mixed fun: show me another vsf based fuckem build

 

[andy_fin]

It's a piece unique!
Good job buddy

 

[trailboss99]

there is no need for any nitpicking here dial is just great like this and loved every stage of this process, as well as more than happy with the result, not sure i get the derogatory remark

Nitpicking? There's a bloody great gap in between the dial and the rehaut at 2 o'clock and the brass dial edge is showing from 2 to 4 because it was ground down too small, the rehaut is not even close to lining up, you broke the insert and look at the paint job on the insert, it's terrible.

I'm sorry but this is way from a great job and I don't see what people are getting so over-excited about. When you post a watch on the forum you expect feedback, I'm giving you honest feedback. IMHO this is not a great build. PS: If you keep trying to drill ceramic inserts with a plain HSS drill bit, you will break them every time.

 

[wisedennis]

Great project

 

[Hasslebank]

Nitpicking? There's a bloody great gap in between the dial and the rehaut at 2 o'clock and the brass dial edge is showing from 2 to 4 because it was ground down too small, the rehaut is not even close to lining up, you broke the insert and look at the paint job on the insert, it's terrible.

I'm sorry but this is way from a great job and I don't see what people are getting so over-excited about. When you post a watch on the forum you expect feedback, I'm giving you honest feedback. IMHO this is not a great build. PS: If you keep trying to drill ceramic inserts with a plain HSS drill bit, you will break them every time.

Any feedback is welcome, yours of course too, even if you don't like it as it is, that's also fine, different strokes.
When saying nitpicking was only referring to the only remark from above, that the font is different from gen...

Honestly, I do not give a sh#t about the font, I'm enjoying the dial as it is, being the booster to even consider such a project as always found the simple no-date stuff too boring, these two tiny words give a world of difference to my eyes

Mentioned that the basic Fuckem watch was a cheapo CS one, so the dial was and had to be shaved, watch smith was showing me how fragile and poor was the whole construction of the dial so this result not damaging the surface after a 1mm removal is more than satisfactory for me given the risky intervention and I'm enjoying it maximally, that's the ultimate goal I guess.

Bezel sadly broke during the removal of the pip having a totally different construction, thats part of the game, not while drilling it which was only necessary to fix the pip sitting more safely and done btw with diamond drill head as ws had already experience on how to drill any ceramic material.
Paint job was VSF like this and also kinda like it giving a patina to the whole stuff, when considering an eventual upgrade I'll need to buy a new bezel anyway.

Would never look at this watch through any macro as I know how many struggles have led to this result what I appreciate and enjoy, matters the most.

Hope that it gives a bit more insight into how I feel about this baby extremely happy to wear and look at from a normal sight distance

PS. just to enhance this project a bit more FYI the caseback engraving upgrade is also in progress from the scratch (render, etc) having the necessary depth and correct font vs the rep which btwstanding alone is also nice.
Having an old thick Noob caseback which fully fits to the VS case being the donor of it.

 

[C Master]

so the dial was and had to be shaved, watch smith was showing me how fragile and poor was the whole construction of the dial so this result not damaging the surface after a 1mm removal is more than satisfactory for me given the risky intervention

In fairness it can be done correctly. However it has to be done with a jig and by a professional watchsmith with professional equipment. This is a Raffles dial (no better construction than any 2813 dial) in a TCV6. 1.8mm needed to be shaved and had to be exact. Yes my watchsmith cursed me as he knew the time and prep involved.

I get it that no one looks closely at a watch but to be honest if my guy did that job he would have thrown the dial in the bin and ordered me to get a new one lol. However he is a perfectionist. I am not lol so I get your passion for the project. I would be the same and I would not care what it looked like, it is the concept I was after too.

 

[hungaryrolex]

In fairness it can be done correctly. However it has to be done with a jig and by a professional watchsmith with professional equipment. This is a Raffles dial (no better construction than any 2813 dial) in a TCV6. 1.8mm needed to be shaved and had to be exact. Yes my watchsmith cursed me as he knew the time and prep involved.

I get it that no one looks closely at a watch but to be honest if my guy did that job he would have thrown the dial in the bin and ordered me to get a new one lol. However he is a perfectionist. I am not lol so I get your passion for the project. I would be the same and I would not care what it looked like, it is the concept I was after too.

hey mate,
I feel being addressed somehow, so I thought I'd share some of my thoughts on this exciting project.
I do appreciate the effort and skill of your watchmaker.

Regarding the polishing of the dial, I would agree that might not be perfect in some places.
For your consideration however the inner ring of the VSF case, on which the dial sits, is much smaller than a TC or even just ARF and NOOB case, and covers much less much the edge of the dial. (I am currently on vacation in the countryside, but if you feel the need, I will gladly attach a photo FYC of this during the weekend)

The dial was also not completely round (almost none of the ones made by our Chinese friends are perfectly round) and removing 1 outer flange from it is quite risky. On the one hand, the dial also has some deformation, in addition to this is the fact that the machine also has some movement that is not perfectly centric makes the situation more delicate. (Yes, I know there are watch lathes that are perfectly centric for many tens of thousands of euros, your watchmaker is really professional, there is a good chance that he has such a machine)
Since this is a lacquered dial and unfortunately not of particularly good quality, this posed an additional risk that the painting would not come off.
Not to mention the fact that, unfortunately, this is not an ETA feet design sheet, a gluing technique needs to be used, which would definitely move the sheet a bit.
The biggest issue regarding the whole project is that while dials are available from Raffles in relatively cheap quantities in large quantities, here only 1 dial was available given the center of this work.
Not a piece of which there are many hundreds on the shelf which in case of any arisen issue/imperfection would easily be replaceable.

Personal note:
From a normal eyesight we all are looking to our watches, I think this is perfectly acceptable, the owner also confirmed that he is happy with it it, and that the most important feedback to me for the work and effort done

Regards,
Hungaryrolex

 

[wisedennis]

I actually like this fuck ‘‘em watch,

It has some sort of “ give zero fuck” vibe

 

[pooseyclot]

Dude loved the build and the process but the execution left something more to desire. the upgraded engraving looks great. I wish the text was correct on the "fuck em" part and the dial fit the watch... the edges would bother me. A for effort tho! Still cool - I've actually wanted to do something like this myself.

What was your all in cost on this?

 

[Hasslebank]

As per signalized previously here is the final update with the last touch of this project.
The caseback as a rep was nice especially in light of others' feedback from the past who received their watch with plain one.
The finish however was extremely poor and had nothing to do with the gen depth, font



Gen for ref:


It may be a simple detail that could have been left like this as can hardly be seen, but after spending so much time with this project already been seriously considering upgrading it somehow if there's a chance and a viable option.

FYI the new VSF casebacks are much more thinner than the old school ones so I sourced a thick enough Noob one thank to @hungaryrolex which perfectly fits the case thus ensuring safe water resistance as well.


Caseback has been sent to JJ Watchparts having all the cool stuff to have it done genlike, his staff was supercool to do a deep research on the exact parameters and specs of the gen logo.



Here is the result well beyond all my expectations: