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Rolex Replica Mechanical Watch Balance Wheel w. Regulator Screws?

Adamsky

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Hi,

Thanks for the vast amount of info on parts, dealers etc. on this forum. About two years ago I bought a replica Ceramic Rolex Submariner in Asia from a trusted watch maker, it has 904l steel, has nice details and "1:1" movement, but the movement has that extra screw attachment for adjusting the balance wheel instead of the individual regulator screw weights that are on the original Rolex movements. This is such an immediately eye catching details which really annoys me. From my research even the newest 3235 clones have omitted the regulator screws on the balance wheel.

So my question: Is there any replica with a movement that has the screws?

Second question unrelated: Is the best Tudor Heritage Black Bay Bronze dark version really the appr. 348 dollar one? It looks very rough on the edges of the bronze and I really don't know if the movement is any good... maybe someone can help

Thanks in advance!
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Why are the very fine points of what a movement looks like important, inside a watch with a solid caseback? How much time do you spend with the caseback removed, staring at the movement? You know it’s a rep movement, whether the details are 100% correct or not. And if you want it 100% correct looking so you can fit a display caseback, it’ll just make the watch look less gen-like overall. Sub owners don’t show off their movements - it’s ungentlemanly.

I must have a suspicious, cynical mind - because when I see someone asking if the invisible parts of their rep can be made to look more gen, I tend to wonder who they’re planning to fool.

I have the XF BB Bronze Bucherer Blue (the BBBBB) and it’s an excellent rep. No rough edges, and the Miyota movement is running well (the rotor is audible at times - but that doesn’t bother me). ZF, V6F and XF have repped the bronze. IIRC the V6F was the class leader. I’m not sure which one you’re looking at though, you should post a link here to the TD page.
 

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Great first post.

The new clones movements havent omitted, it is on the other side and hidden under the bridge a bit, in my opinion. or am i wrong?
 

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Hi !

I think that are two reasons for this:
- on the one hand it is much cheaper to produce
- on the other hand, it is easier to set the watch and requires less maintenance


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Adamsky

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Why are the very fine points of what a movement looks like important, inside a watch with a solid caseback? How much time do you spend with the caseback removed, staring at the movement? You know it’s a rep movement, whether the details are 100% correct or not. And if you want it 100% correct looking so you can fit a display caseback, it’ll just make the watch look less gen-like overall. Sub owners don’t show off their movements - it’s ungentlemanly.

I must have a suspicious, cynical mind - because when I see someone asking if the invisible parts of their rep can be made to look more gen, I tend to wonder who they’re planning to fool.

I have the XF BB Bronze Bucherer Blue (the BBBBB) and it’s an excellent rep. No rough edges, and the Miyota movement is running well (the rotor is audible at times - but that doesn’t bother me). ZF, V6F and XF have repped the bronze. IIRC the V6F was the class leader. I’m not sure which one you’re looking at though, you should post a link here to the TD page.

Thanks for the answers first of all! I am not trying to pass off a replica to anyone claiming it to be an original - rest assured. For me there is a fun creative spirit in the whole replica game, because it involves some reconnaissance and interest for the parts, details and mechanics in order to obtain the best versions. It is much like finding parts and assembling your own PC. The more errors we can spot and correct, the more details we pay attention to, the more interesting the journey becomes. It is a hobby. Rolex are happy about the replicas too, it is so much free advertising for them, and the fact that there are fakes also make it possible for people to say they own a genuine watch. If no one would bother faking it, it would mean it wasn't really special in the first place. And honestly a 1:1 replica means about as much to me as a real Rolex would.
 

Adamsky

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I am sure that the minute replicas become truly 1:1, Rolex would find ways to add more details in order to make their originals unique - so the game would continue nonetheless. Why make 98% of the watch match and then not be interested in the last 2%. What i then the purpose of replicating?
 

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Ok. Tudors first. I prefer the A2824 movement over the miyota because of the aforementioned loud unidirectional winding rotor in the miyota. Owning genuine Tudors with both ETA based movement and the new in house movements I can tell you their rotor is virtually inaudible. I can't speak to those particular pieces on case construction, but I've had other watches by zf (the one from dealer clocks is a zf if I'm not mistaken) and build quality was phenomenal. For comparison, here's my genuine Tudor GMT next to a zf. Fit and finish was top notch.


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regarding the balance on the 3135 movement, this can be rectified by having a genuine balance and bridge installed, and yes, it's the easiest tell if someone looks at the movement. I'd highly recommend you get a display caseback if you decide to go down that route, and consider a genuine auto wind so you've covered the bulk of the visible pieces then. It'll set you back close to $1k. There's a few Watchsmiths here that can do it depending on which superclone movement you have.
 
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Adamsky

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Ok. Tudors first. I prefer the A2824 movement over the miyota because of the aforementioned loud unidirectional winding rotor in the miyota. Owning genuine Tudors with both ETA based movement and the new in house movements I can tell you their rotor is virtually inaudible. I can't speak to those particular pieces on case construction, but I've had other watches by zf (the one from dealer clocks is a zf if I'm not mistaken) and build quality was phenomenal. For comparison, here's my genuine Tudor GMT next to a zf. Fit and finish was top notch.


IMG_20200817_14591679d12066db33ee88.jpg


regarding the balance on the 3135 movement, this can be rectified by having a genuine balance and bridge installed, and yes, it's the easiest tell if someone looks at the movement. I'd highly recommend you get a display caseback if you decide to go down that route, and consider a genuine auto wind so you've covered the bulk of the visible pieces then. It'll set you back close to $1k. There's a few Watchsmiths here that can do it depending on which superclone movement you have.

Great answers! Thanks a lot - I will see if I can surface some gen parts around here...
 

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You should speak with one of the Watchsmiths who actually have done the swap. watchservicesny can give you clearer insight and possibly get the needed parts as well. First, you need to establish which superclone movement you have as that'll dictate if you can even do the swap.