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Review VSF PAM441 V2

d4rk

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Hello fellow watch friends,

today I am doing my first review on my first replica. I know there are some really good and comprehensive reviews of the VSF PAM441 V2 out there. I am not aiming to compete with them, I just want to provide my own personal view on this awesome watch. For the background: I am not too long into mechanical watches anyways. I started with a Ingersol "The Bloch" end of 2016. This brought me into the hobby and I also bought a Junghans Meister Chronoscope for my graduation, which is a bit more of a higher value gen.
So I am kind of a beginner but with a bit of a reference to a high quality gen as well.

Let's start the review:
The first thing i noticed is the astonishing quality of the case. The ceramic feels really well finished there are no sharp edges or any other production faults i could notice, Also no gaps or anything irregular can be spotted.
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The dial looks really nice too no irregularities could be spotted there. It is a sunny day at my home and I did not think about dimming the room. So you can see the glass is a bit reflexive. The hands look well manufactured as well. Could not find any negative point on it. they look crisp and clean.

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The numbers look mostly gorgeous really smooth and crispy. With exception to 8, 11 and 1 the feel a bit narrow compared to the numbers just look at the 8 in comparison to 7. I am not sure if it is supposed to be like that because i have never seen a gen 441 and i feel like it is all about the angle you take a look at. At dimm light you barley see 1 and 8. Maybe i failed QC or i am just too picky. I highly appreciate feedback from seasoned panerai fans ;)

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The caseback looks really nice too. It states that it is made of titan but i dont know if thats true, do not know the material too well. Movement looks good could not find any point. It is quiet and sounds "healthy" if you take it close too your ear.
The rotor is working only in one direction and is blocked in the other. I have read some complains that the rotor could be somehow loud. I can't confirm mine is really quiet. In comparison my Junghans Meister is loud as hell if you move a bit.

As already stated in the other reviews the functions are like gen. When I first unboxed the watch I justed the official manual for the gen to get it started and set time/timezone. Winding is pretty smooth i just gave it some rounds to get started and wore it for some time and it lasted over the night. The only thing i noticed when i setting the time initially: when you quickset the hour hand the gmt hand stutters a bit. but i think i have seen this phenomena also on a video of the gen and it is not really significant.

I feel like it keeps good time. Can't tell from now. I am that kind of guy who sets the time to the minute not to the second. So for me after one day I can not see any derivation so I am happy. The QC Pics stated that it gains 18 sec a day. So maybe i will notice it next week.

It think it won't stop soon because I will not get this from my wrist in the near future ;)

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Here is a nice little wristy for ya folks :) I feel like it is attracting dust in a magic way :D But it looks so nice.

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And last but not least the most important thing of a Luminor: the lumen. This shot is not "faked" so i did not charge the lumen with my smartphone. It is just that bright in the shadow on a sunny day. Really impressive and it lasts for a good time i'd say.

The strap feels really nice. The outer part touches really nice and soft but overall the band is really stiff and you see the first marks from just wearing it some hours. I am not sure if it will last really long but i already read that rep straps aren't the best so it's no real point. I will wear it until i don't like it any more. The clasp is also ceramic and feels really well made. I hope i can keep it when i swap the strap in the future.

So that is the end of my little review. Feedback is appreciated! :) Overall i am really happy with my first rep watch. Feel like I am already addicted. To the overall process:
I bought it from Andrew, which is a kind and honorable guy shortly before CNY. He managed to get QC and Tracking before start of CNY. It took then 3 weeks to get to central europe. Maybe it took that long because the logistics did not work in china idk but it was worth the wait. Did arrive well packaged.

Best regards d4rk
 

Joncjm21

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Nice watch. I have the same one. I find it to be a bit bulky because of the guard. Nonetheless, very nice watch.


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PaneraiCC

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Hey bud, i just ordered my pam438 v2 from puretime. Mine will be here on Tuesday. Can’t wait!

from what I understand, 438 and your 441 are almost the same except the ceramic band. Mine did come with the asso strap to convert to 441 also. How do you like your Asso strap? Was it the stock strap or your custom one?

thanks for your sharing! Well-done
 

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Hey bud, i just ordered my pam438 v2 from puretime. Mine will be here on Tuesday. Can’t wait!

from what I understand, 438 and your 441 are almost the same except the ceramic band. Mine did come with the asso strap to convert to 441 also. How do you like your Asso strap? Was it the stock strap or your custom one?

thanks for your sharing! Well-done

The "RAI" text on the backing of the strap indicates it is the stock strap.
 

d4rk

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PaneraiCC I also thought about the 438 but was afraid i couldn't shorten the Band myself. And i think the movement of the 438 is painted black. Andrew has even a v3 of the 438 vsf.

The strap is the stock one. And it looks Vetter than it feels. It is very stiff and it already got wearing marks from one day of use.
 

mysterio

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PaneraiCC I also thought about the 438 but was afraid i couldn't shorten the Band myself. And i think the movement of the 438 is painted black. Andrew has even a v3 of the 438 vsf.

The strap is the stock one. And it looks Vetter than it feels. It is very stiff and it already got wearing marks from one day of use.

The rep assolutamente strap is probably the best rep strap made, with the caoutchouc (rubber) being a close second.
 

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Hey bud, i just ordered my pam438 v2 from puretime. Mine will be here on Tuesday. Can’t wait!

from what I understand, 438 and your 441 are almost the same except the ceramic band. Mine did come with the asso strap to convert to 441 also. How do you like your Asso strap? Was it the stock strap or your custom one?

thanks for your sharing! Well-done

I think the other difference is 438 has black movement, and 441 has regular silver movement. Maybe mysterio can confirm?
 

madmax1967

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I got a PAM438, and to me there is a defect on the dial, that I can see also in the pictures above of the 441... the numbers cut-outs are a little too thin... especially the numbers 1, 11, 8 and 10.
In normal light they seem to disappear and the night lume is indeed very low...
I'm asking the other owner's if they had the same impression or it's just me...
 

d4rk

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Thats what i also pointed out. But i feel like it is really dependend in the angle of view.
 

alfred104

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Thanks for the nice review bud! Regarding the rotor only working in one direction... Would you know which direction the rotor works? Counter clockwise? Or clockwise?
 

replikmaster

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Hi guys,
Is the second hand not supposed to be blue ?
No, all pams with blue sec hand starts with number 1 in theis codes. The one you are reffering to is the 1441. The 441 has black sec hand.

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