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Report this Tudor! Another fake Black Bay from the same seller!

Tucker

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I have seen MANY reps sold by this scammer on ebay and I am surprised ebay hasn't banned him yet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TUDOR-Heritage-Black-Bay-Blue-Ref-79220B-Blue-Bezel-Wristwatch/311856280605?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=40130&meid=af7edd99f87941949c46b9c96fe68d0b&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&mehot=pp&sd=272640298581

Pretty much everything on his store is rep and has 98% positive feedback!!!!! Let's report this scammer before this ZF version gets sold as a gen.
What are the tells on this watch so I can act like I know what I am talking about.
 

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What are the tells on this watch so I can act like I know what I am talking about.

Hey Tucker,

Here are the top 3 tells of a BB rep:

1- For the blue one, the rep has always been wrong in terms or bezel color (rep is matte where the gen is glossy)
http://www.thehorophile.com/watches/tudor-black-bay-blue/
2- The rose logo of the rep is missing a leaf (this is most commonly known issue with the rep logo - many threads about it as well)
3- The cannon pinion (the gen is closed where the rep has a hole)

http://www.watchonista.com/sites/de...apher/1/albums/tudor_heritage_black_bay_1.jpg

Everything that this seller selling is a rep....unbelievable!
 

2fake4u

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reported and contacted seller. But he does have a lot of gens for sale and has sold a lot of gens as well.
 

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From the seller...

"Good Evening,
Thanks for contacting me. I appreciate it. Everything you see in our auctions are authentic. They are all inspected by our brand specialists who are previously worked for Patek Philippe, Rolex, Cartier, Hublot…etc. So far they haven't been wrong. So, you can bid with confidence. If you have further questions and concerns, please let me know.
Kindly Regards,
Kivanc"
 

zethunder

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From the seller...

"Good Evening,
Thanks for contacting me. I appreciate it. Everything you see in our auctions are authentic. They are all inspected by our brand specialists who are previously worked for Patek Philippe, Rolex, Cartier, Hublot…etc. So far they haven't been wrong. So, you can bid with confidence. If you have further questions and concerns, please let me know.
Kindly Regards,
Kivanc"

Haha, I was just going to message you! I got the below copy paste message as well (I asked for papers so he added one more line)
Good Evening,
Thanks for contacting me. I appreciate it. Everything you see in our auctions are authentic. They are all inspected by our brand specialists who are previously worked for Patek Philippe, Rolex, Cartier, Hublot…etc. So far, they haven't been wrong. So, you can bid with confidence. This is a pre-owned watch. Unfortunately, we don't have the box and the paperwork. If you have further questions, please let me know.
Kindly Regards,
Kivanc

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So you tell me now, what do you still think about this seller. I messaged him earlier and told him about my concerns and he replies me with the same text. Earlier I thought maybe he got one without realizing but now that he is insisting on it (and huge BS on having specialists who "worked for" PP, Hublot, etc....yeah right), I am thinking that he is selling it knowingly.

There is zero doubt about this being a rep..it is a ZF v4 or V5 (other than the farbic strap, they were essentially same) and yet he claims it to be authentic
 

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Haha, I was just going to message you! I got the below copy paste message as well (I asked for papers so he added one more line)
Good Evening,
Thanks for contacting me. I appreciate it. Everything you see in our auctions are authentic. They are all inspected by our brand specialists who are previously worked for Patek Philippe, Rolex, Cartier, Hublot…etc. So far, they haven't been wrong. So, you can bid with confidence. This is a pre-owned watch. Unfortunately, we don't have the box and the paperwork. If you have further questions, please let me know.
Kindly Regards,
Kivanc

- istanbul_market


So you tell me now, what do you still think about this seller. I messaged him earlier and told him about my concerns and he replies me with the same text. Earlier I thought maybe he got one without realizing but now that he is insisting on it (and huge BS on having specialists who "worked for" PP, Hublot, etc....yeah right), I am thinking that he is selling it knowingly.

There is zero doubt about this being a rep..it is a ZF v4 or V5 (other than the farbic strap, they were essentially same) and yet he claims it to be authentic

Like i said in the chat, I dont think he knows. Im still going to watch the omega though and if its bidding at a good price, jump on it. If I get the watch and its gen, idc what he does.
 

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Like i said in the chat, I dont think he knows. Im still going to watch the omega though and if its bidding at a good price, jump on it. If I get the watch and its gen, idc what he does.

He could have just said "let me have it re-checked" instead of "it is authentic, buy with confidence" especially when I know it isn't ..oh well
 

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I'm sure he does know - 1 could slip through, but if he's selling several, then he knows - he's hiding a few fakes amongst his gens for a nice little boost in profits.
 

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I'm sure he does know - 1 could slip through, but if he's selling several, then he knows - he's hiding a few fakes amongst his gens for a nice little boost in profits.

Agreed! I can't believe eBay doesn't give a shit...a handful of people reported the blue black bay and nothing happened apparently. It will be sold at a ridiculous price already...


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istanbul_market can obviously not be trusted, no way two slipped by them.

My thoughts exactly boss...I even called ebay customer service and told them that I had reported these watches and they are not genuine. I also told them that this seller probably gas done in it the past too and his inventory needs to be inspected (or put on hold)...the agent said they would look into but clearly they don't give a shit.

The blue zf tudor is at $1963 now!
 

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My thoughts exactly boss...I even called ebay customer service and told them that I had reported these watches and they are not genuine. I also told them that this seller probably gas done in it the past too and his inventory needs to be inspected (or put on hold)...the agent said they would look into but clearly they don't give a shit.

The blue zf tudor is at $1963 now!
EBay doesn't give a sh!t. Make sure you tell eBay that you are also contacting Tudor to let them know that their counterfeit watches are being peddled on eBay.