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Replacing 7750 movement for AP 57th Street

Uki_Don

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I've got a lovely AP 57th Street in my possession that as the original 7750 movement from purchase.

Whilst it's still working, including the Chrono, I'm aware of the flaws. I'm wondering whether a new Swiss 7750 movement fits and whether there was anything I'd need to consider when doing so?
 

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As I recall, and take my advice with a grain of salt, I haven't done this, that the 7750 Swiss ETA is not a direct swap into the AP Royal Oak Offshore due to modifications to the replica movement and the transfer plates.

They share components together, you can replace some of the replica 7750 parts with the gen swiss 7750 parts to help improve stability (I'm not aware of which parts can be swapped)

However, even replacing it just makes the movement a little more stable and better time keeping but won't yield huge improvements and the chrono is still a no go to run.

My opinion is it's not worth it - if the 7750 replica movement shits on you just buy one from Aliexpress.
 

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2. What is the issue of the A7750 second@12 movement and how can one overcome it?
In short, Friction. The natural second@9 is brought to the 12 o'clock position by a series of transfer gears, which increase the friction across the gears and the alignment of the gears are often imperfect, especially in older batches. The design, while conceptually brilliant, lacks the quality parts and execution finesse required for all the extra gears to run smoothly and consistently. In the recent batches, this issue has been improved somewhat. Other implications brought about by these transfer gears are erratic chronograph use and a thicker movement as a result (about 1.8mm thicker than the A7750 movement). A movement service coupled with the replacement of the asian mainspring to a swiss one can help to alleviate the friction issue, but will not be able to completely overcome the design of the movement or movement parts misalignment. When you send in a rep ROO with the A7750 sec@12 movement for service, the expectation needs to be managed right. The movement can be cleaned and oiled and mainspring replaced but the design of the movement will remain precarious by design. The chrono function should be avoided as a rule. Yes I am aware of members in the group who have successfully ran their chronos without issues multiple times but really you do so at your own risk ultimately.
 

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8. Can't I replace the A7750 movement used in the rep ROOs with a swiss 7750 movement?
No because there is no swiss 7750 made with the second@12, but you can replace parts from the Asian 7750 with corresponding parts from the Swiss 7750 movement. Not every part can be replaced of course. The design of the A7750 movement does not change from said replacement, but the quality of the parts are improved. The overall movement reliability is replaced by 10-20% from my estimate from such a replacement.
 

Uki_Don

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Thanks Reaps, appreciate you also finding the above links. Your opinion pretty much reflects what I've learnt to date and you're probably right, it's probably not worth it.
 
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