Repair of Replica with A23j movement (here: Lange Soehne saxonia moonphase)

[leviathan07]

Hi guys,

I bought a nice rep from TD Trevor (not TD anymore?): Lange Sohne Saxonia Moonphase. Unfortunatly watch winder and rotor don't "charge" the timepiece anymore. It is a A23j automatic movement.

• Two independent watch specialist here in Germany opened the watch for repairing, but couldn't breake through to the movement to look what's wrong.
• Trevor doesn't answere my e-mails and
• other TD doesn't want to repair it, because I didn't buy it from them.

Can you help me to find someone who can do it and who can give me a price and duration of repair? Maybe you know how to repair it and you can tell me?

Thanks Folks.

Levi

 

[leviathan07]

No one?

 

[capice]

Hq watches in Germany,...look for zocker....a new movement cosr around $40 so it is not expensive,...you only have to find someone who can replace it for you

 

[tripdog]

Hi guys,

I bought a nice rep from TD Trevor (not TD anymore?): Lange Sohne Saxonia Moonphase. Unfortunatly watch winder and rotor don't "charge" the timepiece anymore. It is a A23j automatic movement.

• Two independent watch specialist here in Germany opened the watch for repairing, but couldn't breake through to the movement to look what's wrong.
• Trevor doesn't answere my e-mails and
• other TD doesn't want to repair it, because I didn't buy it from them.

Can you help me to find someone who can do it and who can give me a price and duration of repair? Maybe you know how to repair it and you can tell me?

Thanks Folks.

Levi

Oh the irony, when specialists can't get a movement out of a rep. You'll probably find that decoration plates etc around the exterior of the movement are responsible for confusing your specialists - the 23j asian movements are small and in order for them to fill the cases than the Chinese make false movement rings, plates etc.

Post a clear, well lit, in focus of the back of the watch, with the case back removed.

 

[leviathan07]

Oh the irony, when specialists can't get a movement out of a rep. You'll probably find that decoration plates etc around the exterior of the movement are responsible for confusing your specialists - the 23j asian movements are small and in order for them to fill the cases than the Chinese make false movement rings, plates etc.

Post a clear, well lit, in focus of the back of the watch, with the case back removed.

Thank you very much! Please find pics attached.

https://img1.picload.org/image/dlorlgal/img_20180803_203748.jpg
https://img1.picload.org/image/dlorlgai/img_20180803_203733.jpg

 

[tripdog]

Thank you very much! Please find pics attached.

https://img1.picload.org/image/dlorl...803_203748.jpg
https://img1.picload.org/image/dlorl...803_203733.jpg

Opposite the crown and just above it there are small rods sticking up with slots cut in the heads, sitting on what look like thick washers with a tab underneath, I've never seen this type of set up before. This seems to be the only thing holding the movement in the case.

Turning the screws is either going to allow you to move the tabs out of place to remove the movement, and/or it's going to turn feet/tabs underneath, inside the movement, allowing it's removal.

If your 2 watch smiths both tried using these screws and didn't have any luck, then it may be that the movement comes out the front of the watch - remove the bezel and crystal, loosen the screws on the movement, move the tabs over to one side and turn the watch over and the movement will drop out.

Obviously it goes without saying the stem release button (just below the stem) will need to be depressed and the stem removed before you try to remove the crown and stem.

 

[leviathan07]

Opposite the crown and just above it there are small rods sticking up with slots cut in the heads, sitting on what look like thick washers with a tab underneath, I've never seen this type of set up before. This seems to be the only thing holding the movement in the case.

Turning the screws is either going to allow you to move the tabs out of place to remove the movement, and/or it's going to turn feet/tabs underneath, inside the movement, allowing it's removal.

If your 2 watch smiths both tried using these screws and didn't have any luck, then it may be that the movement comes out the front of the watch - remove the bezel and crystal, loosen the screws on the movement, move the tabs over to one side and turn the watch over and the movement will drop out.

Obviously it goes without saying the stem release button (just below the stem) will need to be depressed and the stem removed before you try to remove the crown and stem.

Thanks man. You were right: the movement comes out the front of the watch. Unfortunately I destroyed some gears of the movement while removing . Thank you for your time and explanation. Next time I will do it better.