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Rep Shopping Field Report: Jakarta / My New PAM187

seraphe

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Been away for a business trip to a place where internet was scarce and troublesome to find.

Now I'm back, and I bring with me a short field report for rep shopping in Jakarta.

Before my embarkation to Jakarta, I did a bit of research and found a place in the city to shop for reps. ITC Mangga Dua is one of the largest shopping area in the large 3rd world city. Not only does it hold most of the cheap stuffs for a great pleasurable shopping experience, it can be a great challenging place to hunt for treasures.

Note that due to the popularity and the growing number of the Mangga Dua shops, there are newer shopping complexes built next to each other also named Mangga Dua. When you are directing the taxi driver for this place, make sure you tell him 'Mangga Dua Pasar Pagi', which Pasar Pagi means 'morning market'. It's the place famous in the region for rep watches.

The old building is HUGE. Look out for the part of the interconnected complexes for the 'blok B' (blok=block in Indo). I was just roaming around and I found this shop on the first floor (No. 50) called "EURO watch" selling some reps. Nothing on the display looks good enough. You've to ask the shop guy to show you the good ones. He managed to get some 'better' PAMs but without the swan necks, so I asked for the automatic PAMs.

The automatics are limited in selection, and most of the cyclops looked too shallow. In the end, I found myself looking a the 'Monster'... PAM 187 Sub. I asked for the price. He quoted me IDR 3.5 million (abt US$370). CRAZY! I hit a hard bargain directly down by 50% to IDR 1.2 million. The bargain went on for a while until my final offer was IDR 2 million, which he declined. I told him I give up. Don't want anymore. And started walking away. He called me back and offered IDR 2.7 million. I started walking away again and finally he agreed to IDR 2 million.

YAY! $210 for a PAM 187! Never thought he'd agree!

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Living up the its nickname, the 187 is indeed a MONSTER! It's HUGE at 47mm, thicker than the fiddy and is super HEAVY! It's even heavier than my 'Metal Baby' 111H on SS bracelet!!!

I LOVE IT :D

... Ok. Time for me to catch up with the posts I've missed.
 

MZ

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Thanks for the field report! very nice

It is a monster indeed, you could kill someone with that watch :D
 

Hambone

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Congrats on the 187. Great story too about the acquisition. Enjoy your new beauty.
 

horologie_unitas

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its so huge you need a weapons permit for it.....

awesome watch.....! thanks for the report....i thoight the watch would be way cheaper in these countries.
 

seraphe

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Yeah thanks! :D I really enjoyed the shopping experience more than just getting the watch. You get to hold it before deciding which to buy. Definitely worth the money.

Imagine I had only an hour to browse around the place to find the reps. If I have the whole day, my havest will be different :shock:
 

Matt Watch

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Love that model - you should get it waterproofed - great in the water next summer.
 

babola

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Not a fan of monster Pam subs personaly, but yours is really something, that finish and the overal execution is second to none, as your comparison pics with a gen show.

Good one mate,
babola
 

jb

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The 187 is one of my favs, and is coming up on my purchase list.

Great purchase and comparison, congrats!
 

seraphe

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babola said:
Not a fan of monster Pam subs personaly, but yours is really something, that finish and the overal execution is second to none, as your comparison pics with a gen show.

Good one mate,
babola

Thanks! :D

I have, however, picked up a few flaws/differences in the rep vs the gen.

  • Lume on the gen seems more well covered. The rep has metal edges shown around the lume markers. Surface of the lumed markers also seem more glossy on the rep.
  • Case of the rep looks like it's thicker than the gen. I think its due to A7750 modified to fit this layout.
  • The pearl on the rep looks like a transparent layer on top of the lume layer. The pearl on the gen is not like this.
  • The crown and chrono push buttons on the gen are well polished but the ones on the rep seem matte. Nevertheless, I kinda like it this way :D

Not sure if other 187 owners picked up any others...
 

taiji

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Hi Seraphe,

You score again man... Good info. Wish I'm there too.
 

seraphe

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taiji said:
Hi Seraphe,

You score again man... Good info. Wish I'm there too.

Thanks, taiji... I figured this would be a heaven for panerai freaks like us :p

If you're ever travelling JKT in the near future, remember to set yourself at least half a day to visit Mangga Dua, ya...