Rep pam111 on bay again

[gvln]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/322910610774?ul_noapp=true
he calls it vintage circa 1999 year)))) 0-series ))
his answer to me:
You are saying nonsense. You definitely don’t know about panerai, but think you know. All I sell have guarantee and I also in courage buyer to corroborate authenticity.

It’s very easy to corroborate authenticity. Just take watch to Panerai and request a service. If it’s not authentic will be rejected

the seller has 1200+ fb

what a shame!

 

[ShovelnTC]

What makes you determine it as Rep? Incabloc?

 

[gvln]

The movt is a old rep one. even there is no y-incabloc. wrong shape of swan neck, short screw etc. also the whole package is rep - box, rubber strap

 

[ShovelnTC]

I guess all that can be done is report to ebay but they do nothing about it anyway.

The seller is established and has good feedback so I would suspect that most potential buyers will have it authenticated afterwards so will have PP and Ebay protection anyway.

 

[J.S.]

What makes you determine it as Rep?

OP is right. It's a rep. Many problems. movement with hands and case all wrong.

 

[gvln]

ebay will do nothing with it but if we will pm to seller I think he will remove the listing cause seems that he doesn't know its a rep

 

[ShovelnTC]

Yeah I saw the hands and incabloc but I'm not too familiar with the finer details, have been comparing the ebay pics with my V3/4 111 and Gen pics:laugh:

 

[ShovelnTC]

ebay will do nothing with it but if we will pm to seller I think he will remove the listing cause seems that he doesn't know its a rep

Or doesn't want to know.

 

[gvln]

Or doesn't want to know

so lets inform him

 

[gvln]

I sent him the link of pam111 on PT and he wrote to me:
Yes O serial is from is from 2013 and B is 1999. and the pam 111 has serial from E to O that matches this case. I will correct that.

The link you sent me, it is not the same watch. Quality of steel looks cheap and golden parts are too yellow.

If you look also for information about movement of panerai pam 111 authentic movements will also find are exactly almost to the link you sent me, so that doesn't prove anything.

Nobody is trying to fool anybody. I appreciate your concern, I'm a reputable seller and I'm considering to remove the listing and re list it shortly with the service receipt from the same Panerai representative. The same way you have doubts, might other sellers have doubts and I rather clarify all concerns.

I'm 100% positive feedback with hundreds of transactions because I take care of that.

 

[ShovelnTC]

Sounds like he is legit even if the watch isn't so I expect that he will pull the sale shortly.

 

[gvln]

legit

lets see but please lets also pm him via ebay

 

[Abrown3mtg]

I feel like it is harder to find a gen 111 on there lately.. I have been looking at the incabloc and the gears to see if edges were polished and gold was brushed. Lever tip shape and c.g pin is my third.

Let's just say I'm very happy with my 111. The only thing noticing different between it and the gen 510 I had looked at was how smooth the movement wound on it.

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