Rep or Gen? (eBay)

[howzR]

Came across this on eBay. Is it just me, or does the top of that second hand look open? (I think some of you call it the CP?). Flower is hard to tell from the pics.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TUDOR-HERIT...625134?hash=item43ff651bae:g:HFgAAOSwr~lYo999

 

[johnlogan]

Yes its a ZF, reported.

 

[Radman]

Rep and reported

 

[howzR]

Yes its a ZF, reported.

Thought so. What's the tell between ZF and V6?

EDIT - Actually, does V6 even make one of these?

 

[thpmachado]

And the seller even has a good reputation..


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[Radman]

And the seller even has a good reputation..


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Some of these people don't even know they have reps. I guess.

 

[Rx4Time]

This is the unfortunate side of the hobby and why I refuse to buy gen from anywhere but an AD or here where a rep would be spotted easily. Assuming the seller is unaware it's a rep, although I've seen a fair number of reps listed on the bay out of Fort Lauderdale recently. Not sure what's up with that. I'd like to think the seller would have opened it and verified the movement. Reported for good measure.

 

[GWT#1]

With this guys reputation doubt that Watch will come down doubt eBay will pull it??

 

[Oris]

Reported.

People who viewed this item also viewed: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wancher-Japan-Ranger-Oyster-Sapphire-Crystal-Self-winding-Mechanical-Watch/361644689371?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=2220072&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=41376&meid=bdfcb4a42f234f2eaabc3a52a361aa27&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&mehot=lo&sd=292047625134

Nice enough looking watch but 'Wancher'? Who comes up with these brand names?

'He likes to wear an Wancher on his Parnis'.

 

[Radman]

Reported.

People who viewed this item also viewed: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wancher-Japan-Ranger-Oyster-Sapphire-Crystal-Self-winding-Mechanical-Watch/361644689371?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=2220072&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=41376&meid=bdfcb4a42f234f2eaabc3a52a361aa27&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&mehot=lo&sd=292047625134

Nice enough looking watch but 'Wancher'? Who comes up with these brand names?

'He likes to wear an Wancher on his Parnis'.

It is " a direct descendant of the Rolex".
Sounds like a killer deal.

 

[howzR]

This was his reply:

 

[beith]

This was his reply:

Looks like a v2 ZF. Open cp hole, incorrect pearl, dial printing quality not up to scratch, crown position incorrect, crown engraving incorrect, case back engraving not deep enough. Those are the main tells


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[johnlogan]

Looks like a v2 ZF. Open cp hole, incorrect pearl, dial printing quality not up to scratch, crown position incorrect, crown engraving incorrect, case back engraving not deep enough. Those are the main tells


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100% seller just needs to open up the caseback and he'll see it's a REP. No box & papers my ass.

 

[Jackster]

Came across this on eBay. Is it just me, or does the top of that second hand look open? (I think some of you call it the CP?). Flower is hard to tell from the pics.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TUDOR-HERIT...625134?hash=item43ff651bae:g:HFgAAOSwr~lYo999

Hi from a noob, can u explain the obvious flaw in more detail pls, just want to learn?.. thanks


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[johnlogan]

How about this, same seller ( hard to tell )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TUDOR-PELAGOS-AUTOMATIC-DIVE-WATCH-TITANUM-REF-25500TN-/302244287397
Old watch but still will with factory sticker on caseback.

 

[Radman]

How about this, same seller ( hard to tell )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TUDOR-PELAGOS-AUTOMATIC-DIVE-WATCH-TITANUM-REF-25500TN-/302244287397
Old watch but still will with factory sticker on caseback.

I think that is fake too. crown guards don't look right, and dial lacks texture. So someone left the sticker on but threw away the box and papers?
Stay away when a watch less than 5 years old has no box and papers.

 

[Radman]

Looks like a v2 ZF. Open cp hole, incorrect pearl, dial printing quality not up to scratch, crown position incorrect, crown engraving incorrect, case back engraving not deep enough. Those are the main tells


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ask him to compare which way the hands move when wound clockwise versus his black black bay (gen).

 

[vicente28]

I wouldn't buy even a candy from this scammer. Every watch has no box, no papers, no return = scammer.
What the fuck is doing ebay? He's selling fake parts too, check auctions...

 

[johnlogan]

Reported
The sticker is a tell for sure!!

 

[beith]

ask him to compare which way the hands move when wound clockwise versus his black black bay (gen).

It's definitely a fake. The old gen Tudors use ETA (2824 I think), so I'd imagine the hands should move the same way when you wind. The open CP is a definite tell as none of the gen BB versions has that, unless he has a gen watch and decided to install rep hands? Judging by the shape of the CP, it looks like a pre V3 ZF