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Received my "sw200" Nautilus

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Got my Nautilus in last night, very nice indeed.But not so sure it's an actual, genuine Sellita Sw200 in it.It sure looks like one from the QC pics, but lacking its sw200 markings under the balance wheel.Has all the perlage and proper shaped rotor, but no markings at all.Bought it from a TS, but I'm afraid I got a knock off of a Sellita inside.The rest of the watch is very nice.Not sure what to do here.
 

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It would not be a shock to me. Who knows.
 

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Well, here's where my noobiness really shines.I haven't figured out how to post pics yet.But I will assure you guys, comparing sw200 pics with what I have, I can tell you, there are no markings, non whatsoever on this movement( and the movement is a bit dirty)
As for the QC pics, HW never included pics of the watch on the timing machine.The first pics he sent me had the wrong rotor, so I asked for a watch with the correct rotor, he provided the pics, and I went for it.
 

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I suggest you drop Hont an email with a picture showing the missing markings and ask him what that is all about. I'm confident he'll give you a straight answer...

Please post reply in this thread for educational purposes....:)
 

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Here's a close up of the balance wheel.
 

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Whooops! - good thing Luth dropped by...:)

Since you paid a premium for a swiss mvt, you definitely should drop an email / PM and ask him about the apparent ST-2100 substitute in your PP. Remember to keep us updated...
 

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Yep. But with stamped SW-200-1.
If there's no stamp - it's ST-2100.

What the hell, this is ridiculous. Why is this the 1st i'm hearing of this?

They're all based on the ETA 28XX right? So knock off sellita is the same exact thing as ETA clone, or now a new breed with Sellita markings?

If I have a fake Sellita SW in my $500+ V3 AP Diver heads are going to roll.
 

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Sweet, R2, thanks.I have emailed him right away, we'll see.From what I've read, HW is a stand up dude and I gotta give him the benefit of the doubt.Maybe the factory swapped wrong movement in when "changing out the rotor".:hehehe:
 

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My V3 swiss AP Diver. That's SW200-1 on the far side of the balance.

Based on what Luthier is saying, all swiss Sellita in the V3 divers are fake?

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A genuine Sellita 200 will have stamps under the balance wheel, lower case sw200.As far as fake Sellitas being stamped differently,I don't know.What I do know is, mine is no freakin'sw200
 

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Yep. But with stamped SW-200-1.
If there's no stamp - it's ST-2100.

Never seen that, do you have any pics? How about the variation in the AP divers for instance, which are stamped SW200-1 like mine pictured above. Caps w/ no dash between sw and 200. Those are genuine movements in my humble opinion.