Radiomir...PAM 292 vs. PAM 505 vs. 643 vs. ???

[pfdamion876]

Hi all, looking to add a high quality PAM radiomir to my collection. I'm torn between the KW 292 and the KW 505 but I'm also open to other suggestions.

Was really turned on to the PAM 643 but I think it suffers from the lume being too green. Can anyone confirm?

 

[Barfly]

PAM 380 would be my recommendation.

 

[kanok14]

I have PAM 643, here is a quick look at it for you to make decision


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[alfajor]

Noob 292 would be my choice, not Kw.

 

[NickOT]

I have PAM 643, here is a quick look at it for you to make decision


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I had the KW 643, sold it because I couldn't deal with how green it was. Photo like this taken under bright conditions the camera can't do the exposure correctly can make the lume look whiter, but in reality its more green.
PT's photos show it quite well.

http://puretime01.com/pam643-cerami...obnailson-dial-on-gray-asso-strap-p9000.html#

643 - For reason above I would not recommend the 643.
505 - I would not recommend the 505 either, case is not ceramic it is a DLC coated titanium case, and the DLC has the risk of chipping off, (I had one also).
KW 292 - KW 292J (pig dial) has the oversized CP and incorrect series letter on case. Apparently the KW 292 O (non pig dial) has correct CP. So either that or find a noob 292 J, but KW 292 do not have ceramic crown, but a DLC crown and it doesn't look very good.

so overall my recommendation would be a Noob 292 also, but you will have to find one in M2M, as noob no longer make them.

 

[shelby1501]

All has been said by Nick about models you asked for so I can only comment on other Rads. I agree on 380 and would also recommend 339 and 448. 339 should be on my wrist in few days so I can take few pics if you need.

 

[pfdamion876]

Thanks guys, great insight.

My PAM 127 also has the same green lume issue, sounds like a KW thing. I just love the 643 dial so much, I wonder if [MENTION=35495]Strodda[/MENTION] can work his relume magic on it. I've seen his lume application on a sausage dial and it was impressive. Looks like the KW 292 may also be a viable option.

I'm not as keen on the PAM 380 for some reason. Also, doesn't the 448 have the superclone movement which is a timebomb?

 

[Strodda]

Thanks guys, great insight.

My PAM 127 also has the same green lume issue, sounds like a KW thing. I just love the 643 dial so much, I wonder if @Strodda can work his relume magic on it. I've seen his lume application on a sausage dial and it was impressive. Looks like the KW 292 may also be a viable option.

I'm not as keen on the PAM 380 for some reason. Also, doesn't the 448 have the superclone movement which is a timebomb?

I should be able to help with that. As far as your 127, if it has a green tint in daylight, that is not correct. Is it possible that the glow is so strong that youre able to see a slight green glow even in the light?

 

[hasat]

I have PAM 643, here is a quick look at it for you to make decision


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Very nice my friend.
I've got the same.
Wish you wristpleasure

 

[Debellum]

Definitely among these Radiomir models I have no doubt.... PAM 292 by Noob.
And classic Radiomir no DLC , PAM 380 H. It has some little flaws but still remains a good rep.

Junio M.

 

[Zidi]

i love 292, i think KW and noob are equal( i own KW s') , the biggest flaw on the KW/v6 in my opinion is the crown , it is all matte vs the gen's polished ring / logo (not that really noticeable )
for 292 noob go for j pig and KW go for non pig one!

 

[NickOT]

i love 292, i think KW and noob are equal( i own KW s') , the biggest flaw on the KW/v6 in my opinion is the crown , it is all matte vs the gen's polished ring / logo (not that really noticeable )
for 292 noob go for j pig and KW go for non pig one!

Admittedly without noob producing any more 292 the best on the market from our TDs are KW. But imo they are not quite equal with noob (one reason while i spent ages to get hold of a second hand noob instead of a new KW).
The J pig 292 from KW has so many flaws its not even worth considering, (bad crown, large CP, wrong series engraving on case)
On the non pig version, the dial case, hands etc are good, but let down by the bad crown. for me it's an issue since I have to wind it every couple of days, so it's a primary point of interaction with my watch so I do notice it. It's not just that it's all matte its not ceramic, it's supposed to be DLC but it just looks like crown with a thick layer of black paint which does not compare to a proper ceramic crown. Obviously this is me being very picky! lol!