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Questions about kw pam 388 v2

nehnehchui

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Hey guys!

Received my qc today. Overall happy with it.

Just need to check if the movement is a inverted or non inverted seagull..

And also the time graph, I'm not an expert in reading it but the amplitude is a little low?

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ALE7575

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Amplitude is a bit low but being a replica... if it keeps good time no problems

This movement is clearly a Seagull NON-Inverted - KP9000-Seagull V2

I repeat a previous post to clarify this matter:

Inverted or NON-inverted layout means the general position of the bridges shape and inscriptions.
On below pics you can see the GEN balance cock (the bridge over the balance wheel) coming from the left to the right side.
On the INVERTED layout rep movement the balance cock is coming from the right to the left side. In this way the overall layout is like a "mirror image" of the gen. The inscriptions have to be inverted to can be read.
On the NON-inverted layout rep movement the DECORATION balance cock comes from the left to the right side like gen. Please note that it is just a DECORATION balance cock because the REAL balance cock is placed always from the right to the left side and you can easily see it under the other parts.
This technical trick allows a decoration in the same position as gen and we are calling NON-inverted layout this decorated movements.

P.9000-GEN%20vs%20KW%20Seagull%20INVERTED--COMPARISON%20TOTALxxxxxxxxxx--_zpsevje8nkt.jpg

GEN P.9000 IN COMPARISON WITH DECORATED Seagull INVERTED
Center- WATCHES IN THE SAME POSITION
Right side-WATCHES ROTATED TO GET MATCHING. See the crowns in different position

P.9000-GEN%20vs%20KW%20Seagull%20V2-COMPARISON%20TOTALxxxxxxxxxx_zpsdca5ynrp.jpg

GEN P.9000 IN COMPARISON WITH DECORATED KW KP9000-Seagull V2 NON-INVERTED
Center- WATCHES IN THE SAME POSITION
Right side-WATCHES ROTATED TO GET MATCHING. See the crowns in different position
I hope all is clear now

ALE
 

nehnehchui

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Amplitude is a bit low but being a replica... if it keeps good time no problems

This movement is clearly a Seagull NON-Inverted - KP9000-Seagull V2

I repeat a previous post to clarify this matter:

Inverted or NON-inverted layout means the general position of the bridges shape and inscriptions.
On below pics you can see the GEN balance cock (the bridge over the balance wheel) coming from the left to the right side.
On the INVERTED layout rep movement the balance cock is coming from the right to the left side. In this way the overall layout is like a "mirror image" of the gen. The inscriptions have to be inverted to can be read.
On the NON-inverted layout rep movement the DECORATION balance cock comes from the left to the right side like gen. Please note that it is just a DECORATION balance cock because the REAL balance cock is placed always from the right to the left side and you can easily see it under the other parts.
This technical trick allows a decoration in the same position as gen and we are calling NON-inverted layout this decorated movements.

P.9000-GEN%20vs%20KW%20Seagull%20INVERTED--COMPARISON%20TOTALxxxxxxxxxx--_zpsevje8nkt.jpg

GEN P.9000 IN COMPARISON WITH DECORATED Seagull INVERTED
Center- WATCHES IN THE SAME POSITION
Right side-WATCHES ROTATED TO GET MATCHING. See the crowns in different position

P.9000-GEN%20vs%20KW%20Seagull%20V2-COMPARISON%20TOTALxxxxxxxxxx_zpsdca5ynrp.jpg

GEN P.9000 IN COMPARISON WITH DECORATED KW KP9000-Seagull V2 NON-INVERTED
Center- WATCHES IN THE SAME POSITION
Right side-WATCHES ROTATED TO GET MATCHING. See the crowns in different position
I hope all is clear now

ALE
Thanks Ale.

Easier to understand when I sat down and read. Cheers
 

cosmicgate

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It's an inverted one. Mind PM which TD u get this from? Interested to get one too.
 

ALE7575

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I've placed my order of this new PAM388. I Have the old one of KUVARSIT 388 V1 ST2555 seagul. The TD is Andrew (http://www.ttw8888.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_45&products_id=13019). From the front side looks its exactly match with KUVARSIT product. but its funny amanda from KW said that they don't have that product. But nevermind, now I'm waiting for QC pics from Andrew.


There are some products from KW-V6Fac which KW has not in its website. Maybe because they have still "old" versions in stock and want to sell them without problems

ALE
 

Matjalee

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@shewie, your is 7750 non inverted. Its not seagull. But one of the best
 

shewie

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I just lost my mind because ALE's movement guide makes me think I have different than ordered.
Thats true, it's 7750 from KW, best edition on market at the moment.
@shewie, your is 7750 non inverted. Its not seagull. But one of the best