[Question] Where to buy a FIRST CLASS REP high level PAM 438 ?

[rockstan]

Hi all

By researching "Reference PAM REVIEW-GUIDE" - Replica Search, Identification, Evaluation & Selection by ALE7575 (it’s really an amazing guide)
Current best edition of 438 list below:
1. EVALUATION: (*) FIRST CLASS REP high level (KW-V6Fac O-series REAL CERAMIC, w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9001/B-Seagull V2 w/PR indicator) with correct length of minute hand. The best option available from April 2015 together with ZFac w/ ZP9001/B-V2.5.

2. EVALUATION: (*) FIRST CLASS REP high level (ZFac O-series REAL CERAMIC, w/decorated A7750 NON-inverted improved ZP9001/B-V2.5 w/PR indicator) The best option available from July 2015 together with KW-V6Fac w/ ZP9001/B-Seagull V2.
Then I try to find a match one and shopping in Puretime and intime, there are different model available, and I am confused for the best edition to buy and looking for advice
http://www.intime.co/panerai/2000-pam438-o-ceramic-v6f-1-1-best-edition-ceramic-a23j-p9001-b.html
http://www.intime.co/panerai/2001-pam438-o-ceramic-v6f-1-1-best-edition-ceramic-p9001-b-a7750.html
http://puretime02.com/pam438-o-cera...-ceramic-bracelet-p9001b-free-asso-strap.html
http://puretime02.com/pam438-o-cera...-ceramic-bracelet-p9001b-free-asso-strap.html
http://puretime02.com/pam438-o-ceramic-zf-11-best-edition-on-ceramic-bracelet-p9001b.html
is any of above match to the two FIRST CLASS REP high level that by ALE7575 recommend?

Thanks a lot

 

[mysterio]

1st, 4th and 5th link. A23J is Seagull. The V6F is with Seagull, the ZF with A7750. Just read the descriptions.

 

[rockstan]

1st, 4th and 5th link. A23J is Seagull. The V6F is with Seagull, the ZF with A7750. Just read the descriptions.

Thanks for your answer.

for the No.3 and No.4, so what does the "Lite" means here? the different of the movement ?

[FONT=&quot]PAM438 O Ceramic Lite V6F 1:1 Best Edition on Ceramic Bracelet P9001/B (Free Asso Strap) ==> A23j
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]PAM438 O Ceramic V6F 1:1 Best Edition on Ceramic Bracelet P9001/B (Free Asso Strap) ==> a7750
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[Therion666]

It means a crappy version. Stick to mysterio's recommendation and you'll be fine. He knows

 

[mysterio]

It means a crappy version. Stick to mysterio's recommendation and you'll be fine. He knows

No, not really crappy. :lol: For some reason that we can't determine, the dealers started using the terms "Lite" and "A23J" to denote the watches using the Seagull ST2555, though not a lite movement is certainly an Asian 23 Jeweled one. A7750 is the workhorse automatic movement. Both have been decorated with plates to emulate the P.9001/B movement with Power Reserve at the back.

 

[rockstan]

Thanks for the feedback. Now i am wondering to buy 356 since that you can easily tell its a rep 438 from the movement.....

http://puretime02.com/pam356-o-11-noob-best-edition-on-black-leather-strap-a7753.html

 

[bro708]

Thanks for the feedback. Now i am wondering to buy 356 since that you can easily tell its a rep 438 from the movement.....

http://puretime02.com/pam356-o-11-noob-best-edition-on-black-leather-strap-a7753.html

Are you in the habit of taking your watch off and handing it to people to inspect? If not then I'd go for the ST2555 movement over the A7753 in the 356 any day. I've opted for Seagull movements over the clones every time I've had a chance (438, 351, 312, 505 and 388 so far) and all of them run beautifully. The 7753 watches are know to be problem-prone as I understand it.

Personally I own a 'lite' V6F 438 and it's a beautiful watch which I love wearing and don't care who does or doesn't know it's a rep. In the unlikely event anyone ever saw the open case-back and knew that the balance wheel should be at 7 rather than 6 that person is most likely going to be a rep collector themselves.

Plus I'd rather be known as the guy with the big collection of fake watches (and one real - I own a genuine 164 as well as the Noob rep with a serviced A7750 in it and trust me there's not $5100 worth of difference between them) then the guy wearing a $15000 wristwatch while rocking a mortgage and car loan. Just my two cents...