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QC of Breitling Avenger GMT

zudo

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Hi again all,

I finally decided to pull the trigger on a Avenger GMT II from intime, this will be my first Breitling piece any help is appreciated
I have attached pictures for review.

Thank you so much for the help in advance.

Zudo


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Madcap

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this isnt going to end well
Suggest u read the stickies before posting QC's
 

zudo

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I apologize if i did something wrong, I did not happen to see any sticky in the Breitling section on qc format. I have looked at the other sticky and most of them have pictures that no longer load and am unable to compare my watch.

I have done some due diligence and posted earlier asking about question and typical defects on this watch. I should probably have been more clear in my original post. I understand that with this watch from GF the few issues are the date font, AR ( hard to tell from pictures) and bezel stiffness ( another one that cant be check via pictures.)

I have requested a timing graph and try to see if I can get a better AR shot from ryan at intime but figured I would check to see if there is any other noticeable flaws that I might have missed.

Again i apologized if I miss out on the right way to post a QC and if this is a problem I will take down this post. I have already been help out alot by the community here and am truly grateful for everyone insights
 

zudo

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woops double entry
 
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zudo

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Ah ok thank you yes i see it now, well in that case I appreciate the help and I will try to delete this thread I guess my last rep purchase was a few years back and I did it this way but looks like things have change since than

I appreciate all the help again !
 

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Hi again all,

I finally decided to pull the trigger on a Avenger GMT II from intime, this will be my first Breitling piece any help is appreciated
I have attached pictures for review.

Thank you so much for the help in advance.

Zudo


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What factory made the watch ?
 

zudo

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tking jr

this is the one from GF factory I amgettingit from ryan at intime.

I am asking for more pictures of the date wheel with different numbers so I might compare it to a rep another user has to see as that is one of the things I am told to look our for with the font.

but so far my brief look at it compare it I think it looks good
 

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Well the AR isn't something u or the dealer can do anything about. They will only change it if it's scratched or smeared, which is rare.

Date wheel font also can be abit thin, but I suppose it's a batch issue, just have to live with it. Same with bezel stiffness, back play etc. Most TDs won't check it for you, and tbh it doesn't really bother me. If it does bother u, then some simple modding or diy with the bezel may resolve the problem.

With the GMT, I'll be more concerned abt the movement problems compared to a 3 hander. GMT hand touching the hour hand etc, so far pat has bought 2 and they have given him problems mechanically and it couldn't be seen in QC
 

zudo

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Madcap OK thank you I will highlight that to the TD on the movement issue first time i heard of this I figured the asia eta clones were pretty reliable but like you said doubt it is something he will check and hard to see in qc pics. if it is a issue to do with the movement worse case scenario a movement replacement with a gen eta/swelitta should solve the problem right?

I also got my requested lume shot back and was wondering for this model did the lume change any? I am seeing pictures of the internet of it being more greenish while the one I have is kinda of blueish but also could be the picture as qc pics not being the highest resolution.

Cheers
 

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Ah ok thank you yes i see it now, well in that case I appreciate the help and I will try to delete this thread I guess my last rep purchase was a few years back and I did it this way but looks like things have change since than!

The QC rules have always been the same since I have been a member on RWI. GF makes a very nice Breitling. I think you will be very happy with your watch.
 
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I apologize if i did something wrong, I did not happen to see any sticky in the Breitling section on qc format. I have looked at the other sticky and most of them have pictures that no longer load and am unable to compare my watch.

I have done some due diligence and posted earlier asking about question and typical defects on this watch. I should probably have been more clear in my original post. I understand that with this watch from GF the few issues are the date font, AR ( hard to tell from pictures) and bezel stiffness ( another one that cant be check via pictures.)

I have requested a timing graph and try to see if I can get a better AR shot from ryan at intime but figured I would check to see if there is any other noticeable flaws that I might have missed.

Again i apologized if I miss out on the right way to post a QC and if this is a problem I will take down this post. I have already been help out alot by the community here and am truly grateful for everyone insights
Date font is not a qc issue, there are three variations I have seen which are batch issues. Unless you have asked a TD to source a specific date font (which I guess would be very difficult) and get qc of something different then that’s another story.

Same on AR...it is what it is.

As others have said you can post qc question on a specific issue eg crooked markers scratches etc.
 

zudo

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Hi again all, I got the watch a week ago and have dailyed it every day since, I do have one question on the GMT hand. is it normal for it to not be on the correct hour marker its suppose to be on? like if it suppose to be at 1pm on the chapter ring it will just be slightly higher than the 24 number like the first notch. I notice to when I set the hand to the hour it needs to be when i slide the crown back in it jumps the hand forward or backwards a notch. First gmt I own so not quite sure if I am doing something wrong.

Appreciate the help
 

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The GMT hand on this model is independently adjustable using crown position 2. Rotating the crown backwards will increment the GMT hand anti-clockwise in 1 hour jumps according to the 24 hour scale.

If you set the normal hour hand exactly to an hour marker, the GMT hand should point exactly to an hour marker on the 24 hour scale. You have to decide what GMT offset you want if any, between your local time and a second time zone like GMT. That the whole reason for a GMT watch.

Pressing the four hands on a GMT watch can be challenging and sometimes even the factories don't get it exactly right. If your hour hand is exactly on an hour marker and your GMT hand is not (on the 24 hour scale), then the hands were not pressed correctly and would have to be removed and re-pressed to fix that.

Sometimes with rep GMT movements, there is slop in the gears that can result in a hand jumping when the crown is used. This can be annoying - you may have the hand where you want it and then it jumps on you. You can try to anticipate the jump and set the hand short of where you want it and let it jump to where it's supposed to be.

Some GMTs to look at for hands positions

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zudo

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KJ2020

thanks for the explanation!, After fiddling with it for a bit I believe my hands were most likely press wrong on the dial.

the closes I could get was just right before the hour marker


I figure as long as I dont touch it even if it dies of power reserve all I will have to do is set the regular hands and wind and it should set back to that time. I wonder if I can get it repress by a local watch smith.
 

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KJ2020

thanks for the explanation!, After fiddling with it for a bit I believe my hands were most likely press wrong on the dial.

the closes I could get was just right before the hour marker
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I figure as long as I dont touch it even if it dies of power reserve all I will have to do is set the regular hands and wind and it should set back to that time. I wonder if I can get it repress by a local watch smith.

You might wait a few months and see if it still bothers you. There is some play in the gears on a rep 2836 GMT movement so even if the hands are set perfectly, when you move them the hand gear can turn a bit before the hand moves and they are off again. You have to try to gauge the lead and lag of the gear, and press the hand on the lead, so the hand starts to move immediately. It's challenging as I mentioned above, sometimes when I service or build one I have had to pull and re-press hands multiple times to get them closer to perfect. Each time that is done there is risk of damage to the hands and the dial. Yours looks close enough you might decide to let it go. All the hands have to be pulled to get to the GMT hand.
 
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