Puretime's 312, 320, 359

[Ruski91]

Hey guys, taking a look at angus' site, and just noticed that he has the 312, 320, and 359 up with p.9000 looking movement.

At a closer look though, the movement looks a bit different from KW and the CP looks nice and flat. Are these different models here?

PAM 312

PAM 320 (Haven't herd anything about KW even coming with this model yet)

PAM 359

Any thoughts here guys?

 

[Dartkick]

The 359 doesn't look like it has the off-white/dirty colors for the dial

 

[ALE7575]

These are the watches with decorated A7750 movement build by the help of Angus. They are different to KW versions.
Now they have added a false escapement wheel like KW decoration. But the decoration of the balance cock (over the Incablock) are inaccurate and the finish is worse than in KW.
Besides they have a mistake in inscription MADE SWISS instead of SWISS MADE.

I have not seen Puretime samples to talk about look and general finsh.
I got KW PAM 312 and 359 and are awesome in this regard, very gen-like feel.

ALE

 

[ebzen02]

I wish KW fixes the CP issue, otherwise I like KW's much better..

 

[Ruski91]

Thats exactly what i thought. The movement appeared to be different exactly where you mention, the decoration of the balance cock. Thanks for the confirmation Ale!

These are the watches with decorated A7750 movement build by the help of Angus. They are different to KW versions.
Now they have added a false escapement wheel like KW decoration. But the decoration of the balance cock (over the Incablock) are inaccurate and the finish is worse than in KW.
Besides they have a mistake in inscription MADE SWISS instead of SWISS MADE.

I have not seen Puretime samples to talk about look and general finsh.
I got KW PAM 312 and 359 and are awesome in this regard, very gen-like feel.

ALE

 

[ebean]

ALE7575 - where/who did you buy your 312 and 359 from?

 

[ALE7575]

Thats exactly what i thought. The movement appeared to be different exactly where you mention, the decoration of the balance cock. Thanks for the confirmation Ale!

 

[ALE7575]

ALE7575 - where/who did you buy your 312 and 359 from?

Directly from Kuvarsit Watches
But you can buy them from Toro, Timeshops, Sead, InTime, Hont,.....

ALE

 

[tommytbona]

Just so I am clear....kw and o are different yes /no? Are we talking about this 320?

http://puretime.co/product/pam320-o-11-best-edition-on-brown-leather-strap-p9000-movement/

 

[mysterio]

Just so I am clear....kw and o are different yes /no? Are we talking about this 320?

http://puretime.co/product/pam320-o-11-best-edition-on-brown-leather-strap-p9000-movement/

You are confusing maker and series.

Currently Kuvarsit (KW) makes the PAM312 O series ad the PAM359 N series. Angus' (Puretime) maker supplies the PAM312, PAM320 and PAM359 all O series.

So to be clear, the ones just released on Puretime's website are different than the ones being sold on Kuvarsit's website. There is no PAM320 KW version yet, but given the relative similarities with the PAM312, I am sure there will be one soon. If you're after that particular model, then currently the Puretime PAM320 O series is the latest and greatest version.

 

[tommytbona]

Thanks for the clarification. I have a high degree of confidence that the 320 angus has is excellent. With that being said....I own a 005 v2.5(or whatever the latest is...)

The only aspect I do not like is the crown wheel outside diameter is significantly thicker than kw and the gen. On the video angus posted it appears the same old crown wheel is used. Granted this hardly bothers me, but still.....

Edit....wait check this out...take a look at that drill location....taken from video

And last edit I promise...pic of gen crown wheel...perfect match to angus o series. I stand corrected.

 

[tommytbona]

Could figure out how to get second pic from ipad on one post....

 

[ALE7575]

Angus surely get good watches, but concerning 1950 case of 320, 312 and 359 nothing to do with KW cases in finsih, movement decoration, appearance and gen-like feel.
KW cases and movement finish and care of details are almost like a gen

ALE

 

[Sora]

the $348 price pam312,359,320 are from the factory that made the new pam386/pam441 with p9000 movement.. not kw version
both versions are available on my section too

 

[GeDi]

Guys,

Do the PAM320 & PAM441 have the seconds reset function?
I cant seem to find that info... neither side pictures...

Thanks.

D.