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PPF PP Nautilus V4 vs XF AP Royal Oak 15202

ssr905

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Hey guys, so I recently received the PPF Nautilus 5711 V4 in the blue dial and I thought I would be cool to do a photo comparison and review with the XF AP Royal Oak Jumbo 15202. These are two watches that have always fascinated me, but that up until recently we didn´t have great quality reps. I am happy to say that we do now! These are two fantastic watches on their own right. I am not going to go into comparing them with their gen versions, as that has been extensively commented upon in their respecting threads. Instead, I would like to describe how they look and wear in normal life.

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The dials are very well made. The AP has the petit tappiserie that has a great texture. The print on the dial is crisp and very legible (unlike the JF version), and the hour markers are well centered. The DW is flawaless in my eyes. Two flaws: The hands and hour marker have a different tone of lume, and the blue dial color is nice but sort of flat. The PP Nautilus is a thing of beauty... The light sunburst, the gradient of the blue colored dial make for a georgeous sight everytime you look at it. The hands and hour markers are well centered and in the same tone of lume. The Date display and DW are centered and well-proportioned, with crisp numbers even under a loupe.


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The movements are nicely finished on both watches. The AP has a very detailed rotor that is the main display tbh, as the rest of the movement is not really decorated (but that is similar to gen). The PP has a much more detailed movement, as the guys in PPF have improved upon the finishing of their mvnt in their previous versions. The engraving is crisp, well colored, no distortions or misspellings. Both movements look great, and the only way that someone is going to doubt they are real is if they are: A) A watchmaker or B) Have the gen side by side (as seen in this Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faTFFSsOJ7o).


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The AP wears super slim. It is 8.5 mm on my digital calipers. It's light, shinny, and looks stunning. It is by far the watch that gets the most complements in my collection, because even though it is brushed-finished, it has straight facets in every surface so it reflects a lot of light. The one downside is that the crown does stick out a bit, and can bother ur wrist if you bend it a lot. The clasp works very well and is easy to shut close and open.


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The PP is also super slim. Also 8.5 mm on my digital calipers. It has a mixed-finished bracelet with polished center links and brushed side links. However it is more discrete than the AP because it has a rounded-finished facets and doesn't reflect the light as much. The case fits very well, and is very comfortable, no hair pinching or brussed wrists. However, the clasp is absolutely-utterly impossible to open! It take the force of your whole hand pulling as hard as you can to open it. Maybe this will become easier to open with some daily wear, but I much prefer the AP clasp. Even with this... out of the two the PP is the more confortable watch to wear everyday IMOH.

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So that's it guys! Tell me what you think about these watches! They are both great, totally worth their price and in all honesty I can't see how the gens would be worth the 50,000+USD difference. There is a new watch that I think would be worth including in a review like this, which is the XF VC Overseas 2000V. If anybody has pictures and would like to share it would be appreciated! Hopefully I can include it in the collection in the future. Also, if you know of any other watches with this profile: Slim - SS - Integrated bracelet, please let me know so we can take a look at them

Cheers!
 
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Quick tip on the PPF clasp. You can gently file down the clasp to loosen it. Modify cautiously though, in slow increments, as you can’t undo what has been filed.

I have done this on two separate PPFs. One is perfect, one is just a tad loose and will rarely become unclasped unintentionally.
 
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Quick tip on the PPF clasp. You can gently file down the clasp to loosen it. Modify cautiously though, in slow increments, as you can’t undo what has been filed.

I have done this on two separate PPFs. One is perfect, one is just a tad loose and will rarely become unclasped unintentionally.

Will do! Thanks for the tip
 

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Great read, thanks for taking the time to post. I’ve been trying to decide between these two as I don’t have a blue dial in my collection yet. Which one would you prefer as a daily watch?
 

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Great read, thanks for taking the time to post. I’ve been trying to decide between these two as I don’t have a blue dial in my collection yet. Which one would you prefer as a daily watch?

Just my humble opinion for i would not daily any of them, both watch are heavyhitters in the watch/rep game they command respect, they are pieces for "mature" watch enthusiast that certainly can appreciate their significance...

You should, if you can , rotate them with more sporty or casual pieces that wont mind getting desk shocks...

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Great read, thanks for taking the time to post. I’ve been trying to decide between these two as I don’t have a blue dial in my collection yet. Which one would you prefer as a daily watch?

As a daily watch... the Nautilus. It's super comfortable, light and looks great. The RO is also great, but it does attract a lot of eyes with its reflection, so it would be more for going out to dinner or an event.
 
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As a daily watch... the Nautilus. It's super comfortable, light and looks great. The RO is also great, but it does attract a lot of eyes with its reflection, so it would be more for going out to dinner or an event.

That’s what I was thinking, I love the AP but I think the bracelet is too loud sometimes but it has its time and place. Think I might pull the trigger on the Nautilus now although it wouldn’t be a daily beater but it would get a lot of wrist time!
 

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Just my humble opinion for i would not daily any of them, both watch are heavyhitters in the watch/rep game they command respect, they are pieces for "mature" watch enthusiast that certainly can appreciate their significance...

You should, if you can , rotate them with more sporty or casual pieces that wont mind getting desk shocks...

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Agreed... These aren´t everyday beater watches. They have delicate brushing and finishing that you'd like to last. For a daily I think the best is Rolex... robust cases, bracelets and movements. Im currently in the process of Frankening a 116710 that I plan to use as my daily. What do you wear as a daily?
 
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Agreed... These aren´t everyday beater watches. They have delicate brushing and finishing that you'd like to last. For a daily I think the best is Rolex... robust cases, bracelets and movements. Im currently in the process of Frankening a 116710 that I plan to use as my daily. What do you wear as a daily?

depending on mood or any professional settings, rotating between ap 15500 ap 15202 iwc aquatimer sharks edition and yatchmaster rhodium dial , all pieces fully modded by Prof TomRep Legend...

from a 35 pieces pieces collection, i did restrict myself to bring some sanity back hence a 4 pieces strict rules as a collection...
 
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Great review, I'm going to pick that AP up, it sits so well on the wrist... Shame TD's never take pictures like this
 
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Should the movement on the AP have engravings on gen? As the rep doesn't?
 

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Is it the v2 XF or the v1?

This is the V1. Only difference with V2 is the hand pinion finishing. I got it 6 months ago, and haven't hasd any problems with it. Now we have more dial color opctions: Gold (15202-BC), Blue gradient (15202-IP).
 

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This is the V1. Only difference with V2 is the hand pinion finishing. I got it 6 months ago, and haven't hasd any problems with it. Now we have more dial color opctions: Gold (15202-BC), Blue gradient (15202-IP).

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