Please help to identify 243 version

[Stealthy]

Hi guys, could you please help me to identify which version of 243 is this?

From the pearl I suspect that it's the H-Fac, but the bezel teeth looks like its Noob.

Do you think its worth to buy?







Thanks in advance

 

[Stealthy]

anyone please?

 

[zocker4711]

I would say it is an Noob v1... or an good Mix of it hehe

1. The Pearl looks like the H-Factory or the old Noob v1 Pearl
2. The Crown Leveler looks like the Noob Factory
3. The The Sharp Corners around the Lug Holes looks like H-Factory
4. Bezel self looks like Noob v1 maybe H-Factory
5. So the Lug Release Hole is more Outerside that is an Point at Noob too.
6. Case Back Engravement looks Deep... There i had both Noob and H-Factory
7. The Dial looks like the Noob. Look at the LSML the Position to the 6 is near... And that had only the Noob

I would say it is an Noob v1 not the v2 L-Version... The Noob v2 L Version was near the latest M without Polished CP

If you wanna go 100% right ask the Seller how often the Bezel Clicks...

If it Clicks 60x it is Defenitly an Noob
if it Clicks 120x it is an H-Factory



So that are the Facts for the H-Maker

Now the other Part hard to identify with this Pics is

The Engravement on the Case Back looks like Deep and only the

 

[Norrie]

It looks a little different to my Noob so I'm saying H factory. I'd wait for the next release of the Noob around February.

 

[Stealthy]

hi Zocker,
Thanks for your explanation, even though it makes me even more confused....hahaha
I agree with most of your analysis, that the pearl looks like the H-fac while the bezel (I think) looks like the Noob
I'm still waiting the confirmation from the seller regarding the clicks.

Hi Norrie,
Are you sure that Noob will release the new version on Feb? I thought they've decided to discontinued it due to the low profit from matching the price of H-fac

Anyway, what is the ongoing rate for a used H-Fac 243? is the new one still available?

 

[EuskoGudari]

Anyway, what is the ongoing rate for a used H-Fac 243? is the new one still available?

Check with Toro. I purchased one from him very recently.

 

[buffalo56]

I'm also interested to know if Noob will release again...gonna pull the trigger on the H-fac soon.

 

[ALE7575]

It is an H maker but you can prove it counting the clicks . It will have 120 clicks on bezel like H maker (A Noob would have 60 clicks)

Noob is preparing a new release, to be arranged in about two months, but it is no sure the date

ALE

 

[Perry]

A brand new 243 or a new batch of the old model? What could they improve?

 

[ALE7575]

A brand new 243 or a new batch of the old model? What could they improve?

No actually brand new 243, I think Noob will use the new batch to make some improvements using the last PAM 243 as base, like wider polished edge on bezel and better lume and maybe some improvements in finish of CG
But seeing the success of the last batch Noob could decide to make nothing !!

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Good (??) news !!

Next batch is coming at the end of the year
Read:

http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=160080&p=2371431&viewfull=1#post2371431

ALE

 

[zocker4711]

That's a Nice Info ALE

So what is your Personal Choice on the Toro Project? The PAM113 White Dial...
I have read your Comparsion and for me it seems that the H-Fac Dial is a Little better then the Noob?

 

[ALE7575]

That's a Nice Info ALE

So what is your Personal Choice on the Toro Project? The PAM113 White Dial...
I have read your Comparsion and for me it seems that the H-Fac Dial is a Little better then the Noob?

The Noob is just a prototype to be corrected from the results of my review

Regarding accuracy, at this moment they are almost the same, because both have pros and cons, but regarding finish and quality of the glossy paint Noob is way better
If Noob introduces the corrections the dial will be perfect !

Anyway, I don't know if Noob finally will finish the project seeing all the things to be corrected

ALE

 

[zocker4711]

Yeah if the Factorys do the Changes will be an Big ?
So i Hope they will Studie your Nice Comparsion, normaly they must!
As better an Watch is, as so more they can sell...

But sometimes there must be First the Review to Show how accurate an Watch is...

Normaly it should go better These Way allways...

First send an Prototype to someone who make Nice Comparsion as you do
Then there came Out the Comparsion and then the Factorys Build the Watch on that Comparsion...

If they do this Way they can sell a lot...

If they Build an Watch and bring it Out, everyone is Waiting and Not 100% sure if he should Buy...

And then in the Forums Start These Unprofessional Comparsion btw some Raw Photos etc.

So let us Hope that the Big Factorys Respect your really Nice and Hard Work, and that they Correct all the Flaws...

 

[ALE7575]

I really hope so

But there are economical conditioning too

ALE

 

[mysterio]

I really hope so

But there are economical conditioning too

ALE

Therein applies the law of diminishing returns, wherein any maker calculates how much they would be willing to spend on a certain level of accuracy. Eventually it will reach a point where the investment to improve a feature for accuracy is too big for the gain. There is also the popular concept that the maker does only a certain level of improvement for the current version, so that it can still release a future version with incremental improvements. As to the accuracy of that claim, we can only guess.

 

[ALE7575]

Therein applies the law of diminishing returns, wherein any maker calculates how much they would be willing to spend on a certain level of accuracy. Eventually it will reach a point where the investment to improve a feature for accuracy is too big for the gain. There is also the popular concept that the maker does only a certain level of improvement for the current version, so that it can still release a future version with incremental improvements. As to the accuracy of that claim, we can only guess.

Thanks mysterio, this is the matter
Unfortunately very difficult for me to write it in English
LOL

At this moment I actually doubt Toro-Noob are willing to do a better dial. Many things to change

ALE