**PICS** HELP!!! working on a panerai 004 pre-a project

[fingfong]

im thinking about converting my pam 001b into a pam 004 pre-a

here are some questions:

1) any suggestions on where to get my watch PVD'd?
2) where can i get a replica dial that looks like this:

 

[taiji]

Hi,

If you really want it to be a keeper and is ready to throw in some money,

1.) Look for Avitt to do the coating
2.) Contact davidsen for his PAM001A. Except the incorrect font used on the "T Swiss T" dial, it is one of the closest IMO.

Beside money, be prepared to invest in time for the waiting.

 

[fingfong]

Hi,

If you really want it to be a keeper and is ready to throw in some money,

1.) Look for Avitt to do the coating
2.) Contact davidsen for his PAM001A. Except the incorrect font used on the "T Swiss T" dial, it is one of the closest IMO.

Beside money, be prepared to invest in time for the waiting.

thanks so much!

i just contacted avitt about the PVD process.

as for the replica dial... can you please elaborate about the incorrect font for the "T SWISS T".

do you have any pictures of davidsen's replica dial?

thanks so much!!!

 

[taiji]

Here's the dial from Davidsen

The text font, layout of the dial is the closest you can get.

However, the T swiss T is off.

The "s" in the "swiss" should have flat top and bottom on the gen while davidsen's has the font printed wrongly with round top and bottom.

Good luck

 

[gelyte]

Here's the dial from Davidsen

...have in mind that David is using this latest dial on his 040 ti.

 

[fingfong]

does davidsen make any other dials? i was thinking about a dial something like this:

what do you guys think of this dial?

 

[taiji]

does davidsen make any other dials? i was thinking about a dial something like this:

what do you guys think of this dial?

that's a pre-A pam001 dial from FGD. Impossible to get it now as he is not producing them any more.

The pre-A dial r very similar with pre-V dial with fat numerals n t-Swiss-t under 6 o'clock.

For gen, it is higher in price as it is the last production before richmont bought over panerai.

That r quite a bit of mods to be done of u want to go this route.

Old EL case, good A to F series polished CG, palp or T crown, non AR crystal, pre-V hands from FGD, correct op6500 caseback from jakobh.

Hopes the info help.

 

[COLDI]

get a fgd dial. all or nothing

 

[fingfong]

that's a pre-A pam001 dial from FGD. Impossible to get it now as he is not producing them any more.

The pre-A dial r very similar with pre-V dial with fat numerals n t-Swiss-t under 6 o'clock.

For gen, it is higher in price as it is the last production before richmont bought over panerai.

That r quite a bit of mods to be done of u want to go this route.

Old EL case, good A to F series polished CG, palp or T crown, non AR crystal, pre-V hands from FGD, correct op6500 caseback from jakobh.

Hopes the info help.

thanks so much for the info! that is VERY helpful!!!

i just sent you another PM.

 

[hubrisin]

I'm doing the same project myself. I've converted my DSN 203a, keeping the movement and original PVD. I added a T48, FGD dial, Torro CG (DLC'd by hijack), flattened and polished canon pinion. The final steps are now a relume from Vac and a Jakob case back. The matte finish of the DSN case was reduced with the help of a chrome wadding cloth turned the pvd to a pencil gray finish. With all the natural wear (thank you yardwork) nicks and dings and scratches the look is very gen-like.
It's been labor of love!

 

[COLDI]

I need some of those hijack cgs. One for my 202 and one for my 218

 

[hubrisin]

The CG matches perfectly! But I could find a matching Eddie Lee caseback, I'm so close. I'm sending my watch out in a two weeks to Vac, I'd love to find a matching Pre-A case back before then.

 

[fingfong]

I'm doing the same project myself. I've converted my DSN 203a, keeping the movement and original PVD. I added a T48, FGD dial, Torro CG (DLC'd by hijack), flattened and polished canon pinion. The final steps are now a relume from Vac and a Jakob case back. The matte finish of the DSN case was reduced with the help of a chrome wadding cloth turned the pvd to a pencil gray finish. With all the natural wear (thank you yardwork) nicks and dings and scratches the look is very gen-like.
It's been labor of love!

omg... i have NO IDEA what all these terms mean! i feel like i need a RWI glossary of terms to understand the lingo.

DSN?!

T48?!

Torro?!

canon pinion?!

Vac?! Jakob?!!?!??!?!

would you please explain and elaborate on these terms?

 

[hooligan]

omg... i have NO IDEA what all these terms mean! i feel like i need a RWI glossary of terms to understand the lingo.

DSN?! -- Davidsen, a dealer here and has a sub-forum in our dealer area.

T48?! -- "t" is a member at RWG2 (www.rwgforum.com) who makes replacement crowns for Panerai.

Torro?! -- Toro Bravo is a member over at RepGeeks who sells replacement crown guards for Panerai.

canon pinion?! -- This is the small "post" on the movement that extends through the back of the dial and to which the hands are mounted.

Vac?! Jakob?!!?!??!?! -- Vaccum is a modder/watch repairer here, he has a sub-forum in our watch repairers section. Jakob is a member who is offering aftermarket casebacks for Panerai.

would you please explain and elaborate on these terms?

See answers in-line.

 

[COLDI]

DSN is Davidsen. He is a trusted dealer and builds pretty good out of the box pams

T48 is a crown made by tourby. It has 48 teeth and looks very close to gen

Toro is a dealer on rg and sales decent crown guards.

Cannon pin is what your hour and min hands sit on. You want an H3 high, flattened and polished

Vac is a a modder and a great lumer

Jakob produces very great casebacks. Very close to gen in looks and weight.

 

[hubrisin]

It takes time not only learn the terms but apply them, it's taken me awhile to absorb to knowledge of the forums. Asking questions like this are essential for someone starting out!

Experts:
For a Pre-A dial, should the lume be dim like Pre-V Tritec? I'm asking Vac to do a strong patina on my dial.

 

[hooligan]

Yes, pre-A dials should have the same lume color/strength as Pre-V dials.

 

[COLDI]

Yes, pre-A dials should have the same lume color/strength as Pre-V dials.

Lume is little to no existent on those reps due to age. Also lune colors can very from tans to yellowish to orangish colors. Thats what makes them do unique

 

[fingfong]

Thanks guys!!!!

Another question...who is fgd? How much does it cost to buy an fgd dial???

 

[hooligan]

fgd is a member over at RWG2. I don't think he currently has any dials for sale (maybe he's done making them for good?) - so you're stuck with buying one 2nd hand.

Good luck.