• Tired of adverts on RWI? - Subscribe by clicking HERE and PMing Trailboss for instructions and they will magically go away!

Perfect clones not be trusted

icki

Do not accept unsolicited offers
28/4/10
5
0
0
BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU BUY FROM PERFECT CLONES, www.i-pc8838.com. HE CHANGES HIS WEB ADDRESS ALMOST EVERY WEEKI HIS USER NAME IS JOSHUA, HIS REAL NAME IS XIAO BIN ZHAO. I BOUGHT A WATCH FROM HIM AND HE SENT ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I REQUESTED, NOW THAT I WANT TO RETURN IT HE IS CHARGING ME 15% RESTOCKING FEES PLUS SHIPPING COST. NOW I CAN'T EVEN GET HIM TO RETURN MY E-MAIL MESSAGES AS USUAL, AFTER ALL HE IS IN CHINA AND I AM HERE IN THE STATES. HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY TERMS AND CONDITION ABOUT REFUNDING AND RESTOCKING FEES. SO WRITE DOWN HIS NAME AND BE VERY CAREFUL OF SOME OF THOSE SELLER, THEY TAKE YOUR MONEY AND THEY THINK THAT YOU ARE POWERLESS BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY.
THIS XIAO BIN ZHAO MADE NO EFFORT TO ANSWER QUESTION IN DETAILS, HE DOES NOT CHECK THE WATCH, THE BAND CAN'T EVEN GO THROUGH THE DEPLOYANT BUCKLE, IT GET STUCK AT 21 CM IN, THUS I AM UNABLE TO WEAR THE WATCH, IT IS A DIFFERENT CROWN COLOUR FROM WHAT ASKED FOR; BUT IT DID NOT MATTER TO HIM, HE SENT IT JUST THEM SAME. SO KNOW YOUR SELLER, WILSON OF MONDAYESHOP.COM IS ANOTHER THIEF AS IS THE PEOPLE AT SUPEROCEANS, STAY AWAY FROM THEM.
 

WatchDoc

I'm Pretty Popular
15/2/10
1,088
0
0
"HE IS IN CHINA AND I AM HERE IN THE STATED."
" AS IS THE PEOPLE AT SUPEROCEANS, STAY AWAY FROM THEM."

Um...are you an ex-pat living in the "States"?

I guess this is why the folks on this forum have the whole "trusted dealers" thread...
 

trksh-bzr

Mythical Poster
Advisor
25/9/09
9,057
16
38
in all fairness, it's pretty known around the forums, that he normally has a great after sales service! if you need help dealing with him you should contact him via one of the forums, where he IS a trusted..
...p.s. are you really from the stated???
 

KBH

Mythical Poster
1/11/07
7,168
41
48
The link in your post is dead.

You must have really pissed him off, since he's known for his great after sales service on all the boards.
 

trksh-bzr

Mythical Poster
Advisor
25/9/09
9,057
16
38
...we should still let O.P. have the benefit of the doubt though....right? joshua has reasons not to be trusted here, but none that reflects the mentioned behavior. however, it's still possible this member had a bad experience. the advice must be to join RG, or RWG 2,0
 

rooster133

Mythical Poster
Advisor
25/7/08
6,358
29
0
Well, your watch may be busted but look at the positives: at least the caps lock key on your keyboard works perfectly well!

Good luck with it, and thanks for sharing your experience. (Though I wonder if you've really given him a chance to solve the problem, and whether you told us the full story)...
 

I am Sam

Renowned Member
9/10/09
714
0
0
Icki your CAPS are making me itchy... Can you edit your post? please and thanks
 

AllergyDoc

I'm Pretty Popular
3/5/07
1,759
141
63
Joshua has been in the rep-selling business longer than most and I've never, ever known him to "scam" anyone. Period. Lumping him in with known scammers is bogus.
 

coop

OG member in the Lou
Supporter
Advisor
11/10/06
3,517
67
48
St. Louis
Joshua has been in the rep-selling business longer than most and I've never, ever known him to "scam" anyone. Period. Lumping him in with known scammers is bogus.

Aside from little white lies in product descriptions I agree.
Hes not trusted here, but not for scamming. His after the sale service is good.
 

robertk

Active Member
16/3/06
439
3
0
I don't believe it was the Joshua we all know. There are several phony websites claiming to be perfect clones. Same thing happened to Andrew.

You may have purchased it from one of the phony copycat websites. You need to be careful.
 

KBH

Mythical Poster
1/11/07
7,168
41
48
XIAO BIN ZHAO is the guy that Josh has defective watches sent back to in Ghuanzou. Actually, it's ZHAO XIAO BIN but close enough.

I'm sure there's more to this story than what we're hearing in a quick hit and run post by a disgruntled buyer. I notice icki seems to have signed on to make a negative post and then disappeared.
 

ThinkBachs

Mythical Poster
DO NOT TRADE WITH ME
9/2/09
8,915
84
48
I've purchased from Josh in the past and wouldn't have a problem dealing with him again- though I wouldn't pay for or order a gen ETA. Other than that, a recent DSSD purchase I received that came from him second hand has made me happy enough (after Katt repaired it.) :)
 

hooligan

Mythical Poster
Advisor
24/6/06
8,332
3
38
I've purchased from Josh in the past and wouldn't have a problem dealing with him again- though I wouldn't pay for or order a gen ETA. Other than that, a recent DSSD purchase I received that came from him second hand has made me happy enough (after Katt repaired it.) :)

I'd suggest passing on the additional "waterproofing" service, too. I believe this was demonstrated to be a complete scam by evaluating some of the watches that had supposedly been waterproofed. :whistle: Charging someone for a service and then not performing that service sure sounds like a scam to me, AllergyDoc. I realize you probably meant scam in the context of not receiving your watch or not receiving the watch pictured in the advert, though.
 

trailboss99

Head Honcho - Cat Herder
Staff member
Administrator
Certified
30/3/08
43,333
16,206
113
CapsLock.jpg
 

AllergyDoc

I'm Pretty Popular
3/5/07
1,759
141
63
Charging someone for a service and then not performing that service sure sounds like a scam to me, AllergyDoc.
That would indeed be a scam.

Or it could be a mistake. A lazy employee who falls behind on his work, says he did the job but didn't. It happens.

How many people paid for waterproofing and received a waterproofed watch? Just because one or two guys paid and didn't get it and posted their story doesn't mean no one got a waterproofed watch. :whistle:

Paying Andrew and Josh for that service is a noob mistake.
 

P4GTR

Banned member, the goat does not approve
Banned
9/9/07
3,460
3
0
Paying Andrew and Josh for that service is a noob mistake.


yah, little things like waterproofing, servicing, etc.. are disappointing that they do that.

The major one is dropshipping. I will pay more for a working watch, J/A don't want my money in that regard I guess.

Point being, the little things. It's come full circle right back to why they don't have a home here. A decision I support.

I like Josh, don't get me wrong... The other stuff (white lies) wouldn't even keep me away, honestly. I just don't want to play "watch tennis" or self-learn advanced watch smithing techniques on my brand new $350 watch.