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{*PCTeam*} The gen PAM360 Dial and Hands: It's All About The Details

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Wow, I've got a couple of wiz-bang projects coming up.... You just wait until you see what I've got cooking in the lab. Here are some ingredients that arrived last week.

The genuine PAM360M dial and hands... Now I've held and built many, many genuine dials, but this one I was very excited about receiving. Is it the most rare dial? No, but certainly one of the most well known. It's not often that you get to hold a piece of Paneristi history.

Well M8tes :laugh:... on to the pics. I'll show a comparison of the gen 360 against a KW (V6 Factory) I have in the parts box.

The Gen



The Rep



The Gen





The Rep





One thing that's very evident from the pictures is the structure of the genuine dial indices. Genuine Panerai dials are coinage stamped. The stamped recesses are then filled with lume in most cases flush with the dial surface. The lume on this dial is almost flush with the surface, not "sausage" like at all. This is very different from the typical rep dial lume which you can see is placed in a shallow recess, leaving the lume far above the surface of the dial.

Regarding the hands. These are a dead giveaway on most reps. The tips of the genuine hands are sharp... like the tips of arrows. Rep hands are usually blunt.





Also tough to tell But the lume color on the rep is off compared to the gen. The rep has a pale orange/peach color where as the gen is decidedly more yellow.

looking forward to this build and others soon to come.
 

NickOT

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congrats on your new dial! gen parts are always a joy to hold and admire!
 

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My compliments Grim, usefull comparo, thanks. You are very skilled at discovering very rare parts. Now curious to see your franken 360!
 

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I love the learning on post like this!

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You probably can't tell us but how the hell did you come across a 360 dial set????
 

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Holy F%CK Grim, a gen 360 dial AND hands???
What will you pull out of the cylinder next?
I wonder which case will you use on this...
Looking forward to see the completed build! :)
 

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Awesome post M.! Glad it got to you safely.. treat him well... my franken 360 says hello... :)

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You probably can't tell us but how the hell did you come across a 360 dial set????

Boss... PM me... LOL


Holy F%CK Grim, a gen 360 dial AND hands???
What will you pull out of the cylinder next?
I wonder which case will you use on this...
Looking forward to see the completed build! :)

You don't even want to know what I've got up my sleeve next...

Well maybe you do... this is not the final product. This is the picture of the watch before it is parted out and the dial and hands built into something far more special.

 
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Awesome post M.! Glad it got to you safely.. treat him well... my franken 360 says hello... :)

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Thanks D.

There's a couple of really nice Simonas I see there. Nice choices!
 

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Boss... PM me... LOL




You don't even want to know what I've got up my sleeve next...

Well maybe you do... this is not the final product. This is the picture of the watch before it is parted out and the dial and hands built into something far more special.


Now, the shape of that 12, the thin font with serifs, this makes me think... no, you can't have a gen 203a dial... you CAN'T.
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Youll be able to add some nice shots soon to your Pre-V dial thread.
 

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Thanks Grim
This is an interesting thread
We can see the real differences between gen "sausage" dials and Rep SAUSAGE dials

After carefully study the gen "sausage" lume and the rep SAUSAGE lume from KW and last 2015 H maker and even Noob, I have to conclude that the lume structure is like showed in below figure:

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In the section figure we can see the gen and rep structures are really different. In practice, under the nuked eye, you can really be fooled by the rep sausage dials, because the appearance (At real size) can be very similar under many light conditions. We can say that the rep APPEARANCE approach is good enough.

That said, we remain looking forward to your new franken.

CONGRATS

ALE