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{*PCTeam*} PAM372 Angus vs HFac

mysterio

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As I temporarily have the ownership of both the H-Fac PAM372 (from KW) and the Angus PAM372 (the updated version), thought I'd post some comparo pics. The H-Fac is on the stock rep strap, the Angus version is on the croc strap.

I don't know if it's just me, but the Angus version's crystal seems to be clearer than the H-Fac offering.
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Side by side of the bottom part.
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Closer look.
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The engraving is shinier on the Angus version compared to the H-Fac one, the insides look polished.
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Same story on the PAM00372 engraving. The Angus one is more polished.
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Movement between the Angus version and the H-Fac version are at the same level. I cannot see any visual difference.
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Close ups of the PAM00372 text.
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Angus version on top, H-Fac version on bottom. There is no distinguishable difference in the side profile although the CG, which is brushed on both versions, has more polish on the Angus' version.
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Although it's not particularly apparent here, the LP engraving on the Angus version is definitely deeper compared to the H-Fac version. Here's a photo I took while driving and the light was coming in at an angle (after 3PM in the afternoon). You can see the shadow caused by the depth of the engraving. It's not as deep as the gen but it's better than the shallower depth on the H-Fac.
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So which one is the better rep? You can't go wrong either way, the inaccuracy of the movement still leaves a lot to be desired and hopefully the release of the P3000 movement from Noob factory will usher in a truly super rep level PAM372. Until then, either of these two will suffice (and considering what you get for the money, a very nice rep). Thanks for looking! :D
 

Lelouch

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Thanks for the comparison! I always wanted to know what were the differences between them two
 

carlton

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Yup, the crystal on Angus surely look better than H, that is what I thought when I first see pics of both version. But the sandwich dial is better on H, the index cut out is more accurate to gen and Angus version look a bit too bold imo.

Still I would prefer Angus over H. Thanks for all the pics and your time for doing a comparison of both makers.
 

kaniel

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H factory looks better IMHO.

Thanks for the review and comparison!
 

Polebear

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Thanks for the post! Great comparison!
I wonder : how is it with the plexi: does it scratch easily? How does it stand over time compared to crystal?

Thanks!
 

ALE7575

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Thanks mysterio for this interesting comparison.
People can in this way to know more about the differences of these versions

IMO with the CP colour corrected and the chromed movement screws Angus version
is already clearly superior.
The only advantage of H maker version is the fitting of decoration bridges which is way superior to Angus decoration fitting.
The depth of LUMINOR PANERAI on dial is a decisive factor for this watch.

For me Angus version... waiting for Noob one

ALE

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ALE7575

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need to join RGeek can't see the link..........

Yes you would need to join RG

Anyway the summary is
- Noob, most likely, is working in this replica, following Angus info.
- We have no news about the release date
- We don't know if Noob actually is working in a real clone of P3000 PAM movement and has planned to start with PAM 372...In this case the release will be delayed

Many questions and doubts at this moment

ALE
 

bovi

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Can't wait to receive mine. Those rep looks fantastic already and there's way more work that can be done.
 

stonesix

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Thanks mysterio for great comparison....hopes you do the same when Noob's comes out....
 

Perry

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I received my 372 from Angus with a chip on it's lug and missing letters on the movement plates. I sent it back 3.5 weeks ago and still has not arrived. How much longer should I wait before realizing it's been lost or stolen? I live on the east coast USA.
 

Lelouch

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I'm really thinking of getting this watch, but my wrist a bit small, a bit over 6". How does the 372s fit on smaller wrists?
FYI: I had to get a XS strap for my diver because the normal one wasn't fitting well.
 

omegagmt

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I prefer the H version. Rep movement is just throwing me off with the incorrect bridge. Wonder why they can't rep the movement plates better.