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{*PCTeam*} - Noob 005 upgrades!

Rwolf

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Seems very nice! ;)

http://www.puretime.co/product/pam005-n-v2-noob-best-edition-on-black-rubber-strap-with-pre-v-hands/

The mov bridges are right

PAM-2012-11-04-01-09_enl.jpg
 

stonesix

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Nnoobie here...where is the movement bridges and what does that mean to be not right?
For learning....thanks Rwolf.
 

sharrkey

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Certainly looking better, looks more like stickers than engraving on the movement plates thou, Lume looks a little to fat/ thick on dial also IMO
 

civic4982

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Looks good. Saw this on one of the other forums recently too and my only thoughts are that well its irrelevant since 005 is closed... Still, a nice touch!
 

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These are stickers, not properly engraved bridges...poooo. Don't get why do they bother with this s..t, it is a closed cb watch regardless, and if anyone wants to pen the case back, they'd call it in a second. Waste of effort, really.
 

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Nnoobie here...where is the movement bridges and what does that mean to be not right?
For learning....thanks Rwolf.

the movement bridges is the bottom plate that forms the lower portion of the movement (if you consider the dial side to be the top part of the movement)

rwolf say this it is right, not >> not right ... (meaning the movement bridges is alike the gen ...)


regards
lz
 

emmune

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NICE!!! I've been waiting for noob to finally come out with this.
Judging for myself at the moment but more importantly waiting for Ale and co. opinion on this watch.
 

ALE7575

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Thanks Rwofl for the info

Besides the movement, this Noob V2 version seems to have a better sausage lume application with thicker markers.

PAM005LUMECOMPARISONGEN-H-NOOB.jpg


I think that at this moment the Noob dial is the same or better than sausage H maker
This version also features the same CG as PAM 111 V3 Noob
I have already commented that in the PAM GUIDE
Noob V2 is the best current version of PAM 005 IMO

ALE
 

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Certainly looking better, looks more like stickers than engraving on the movement plates thou, Lume looks a little to fat/ thick on dial also IMO

mmmm... perhaps Angus can clarify if the logo is printed or engraved, not clear in the pics. The dial graphics are very good imho.

Thanks Rwofl for the info

Besides the movement, this Noob V2 version seems to have a better sausage lume application with thicker markers.

PAM005LUMECOMPARISONGEN-H-NOOB.jpg


I think that at this moment the Noob dial is the same or better than sausage H maker
This version also features the same CG as PAM 111 V3 Noob
I have already commented that in the PAM GUIDE
Noob V2 is the best current version of PAM 005 IMO

ALE

I agree ALE. The printing quality looks superior than H-maker dial and the caseback is very good. Another super rep OBO
 

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this cg is not the best that i've seen

PAM-2012-11-04-01-04_enl.jpg


CopiadiPAM-2012-11-04-01-04_enl.jpg


and isn't same of 111v3

PAM-2012-06-21-03-0496_enl.jpg



of this watch like me only the dial IMHO
 

emmune

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That pin does look abit off but it still looks like the same CG.

I noticed the spacing (closeness to 6) of "L Swiss made L" of H-Fac is still more gen-like than this noob.

Also, are the "s" in "Swiss" off? They look different, not sure though.

Regardless, they fixed the CG which was my #1 concern.
 

ALE7575

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this cg is not the best that i've seen
and isn't same of 111v3
of this watch like me only the dial IMHO

Hi toto
You are wrong the CG is the same
In this pics concretely you have a little difference in the pin, but that can happen in a V3 in the same way.
The gap is a reflection.
You should also like the crystal, the case, the caseback, the hands, the lume, the CP, the inscriptions, the movement... , many things to like.
Anyway thanks for the pics and your opinion


ALE
 

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I was just going off the pics that Ale posted.

Maybe I was explaining wrong but I can see a difference.

I downloaded a google app to try and illustrate. The lines aren't exact/perfectly N-S, so there is definitely some error. Maybe someone with/has experience with autoCAD can do up a better more exact comparison. (also: numbers are arbitrary)
2E7kI.png

DFvy5.png




Not really clear which is better but I still think gen has a smaller spacing.
 

ALE7575

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I was just going off the pics that Ale posted.

Maybe I was explaining wrong but I can see a difference.

I downloaded a google app to try and illustrate. The lines aren't exact/perfectly N-S, so there is definitely some error. Maybe someone with/has experience with autoCAD can do up a better more exact comparison. (also: numbers are arbitrary)
2E7kI.png

DFvy5.png




Not really clear which is better but I still think gen has a smaller spacing.

Hi emmune
Many thanks this is an interesting study

I hope you have take the measurements directly from the pics, but I have tried to have the same scale but I have not made a perfect work in order to start a study of dimmensions like yours.
Anyway your study is valid and we can take conclusions.
- The 6 marker font is smaller in H maker and higher in Noob
- It seems is clear that the font size is more acurate in Noob
- It seems that SWISS MADE is closer in gen and is more accurate the H maker position.

Anyhow not only the dimensions are important in a dial. We need also considering: font Shape, font thickness, Lume application, lume colour, overall positions, texture of the surface, contour of the markers, dial colour...
Bearing in mind all these considerations, and this is what Rwolf and me are saying, the Nood seems superior to the H maker. And this is the first case in a sausage dial.

MANY THANKS for your effort and info.

ALE
 

emmune

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Hi emmune
Many thanks this is an interesting study

I hope you have take the measurements directly from the pics, but I have tried to have the same scale but I have not made a perfect work in order to start a study of dimmensions like yours.
Anyway your study is valid and we can take conclusions.
- The 6 marker font is smaller in H maker and higher in Noob
- It seems is clear that the font size is more acurate in Noob
- It seems that SWISS MADE is closer in gen and is more accurate the H maker position.

Anyhow not only the dimensions are important in a dial. We need also considering: font Shape, font thickness, Lume application, lume colour, overall positions, texture of the surface, contour of the markers, dial colour...
Bearing in mind all these considerations, and this is what Rwolf and me are saying, the Nood seems superior to the H maker. And this is the first case in a sausage dial.


MANY THANKS for your effort and info.

ALE
Agreed.

Like I mentioned the measurement values are arbitrary. I just uploaded your pic into a program and took the measurements thereof (so yes the measurements were computer generated based on the pictures).

Since the photos were probably not taken at the same exact magnification/setting the measurement values really mean nothing.

However the Ratio between size of the number 6 and the distance between swiss made and 6 is the important part (excel spreadsheet below).

Anyways just nitpicking. I agree N-fac does look nicer.
 

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However the Ratio between size of the number 6 and the distance between swiss made and 6 is the important part (excel spreadsheet below).
Anyways just nitpicking. I agree N-fac does look nicer.

Of course I noticed the ratio, good way to resolve the scale problem !!

Thanks

ALE