{*PCTeam*} KW PAMs 127 & 217 Out Of Range serials

[PolonusTM]

Unbelievable. KW made these watches in OOR serials for both models. Perfect Clones just published them. Never seen before in rep world

 

[PAM1983]

Unbelievable. KW made these watches in OOR serials for both models. Perfect Clones just published them. Never seen before in rep world

Pics???

 

[chris3007]

KW PAMs 127 & 217 Out Of Range serials

Here is the pic.

But what is a "out of range" serials?


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[svshawn]

Additional production runs

 

[svshawn]

OP 6576 did not have a OOR release making it completely incorrect.
Officine Panerai Watches Identification
Data from 1997 on
Ex. Luminor Marina, ref. Pam 1, matr. OP6502 BB976135

(Watch with case no. 6502 and model no. 976135 produced from 1997 on...1997= No Letter, 1998=A Letter, 1999=B Letter and so on...)

OP65xx-OP66xx-OP67xx-OP68xx and OP69xx + OOR (Out Of Range Model)

Case number (From OP6500 (1997) on)

BBxxxxxxx-PB-DT-SM and VVxxxxxxx Individual model number

(The initial letters BB-PB-DT-SM and VV belongs from the supplier of the case)

(From BB970001 (1997) on)

PAM xxx (PAnerai Model) and Reference (From Pam 1 (1997) on)

OOR (Out Of Range model)

Officine Panerai Watches Conversion Table Data from 1997 on
(OP65xx-OP66xx-OP67xx-OP68xx and OP69xx + PAM xxx)

OP6500 Luminor (+ L. Marina) PAM 1-2-4-9 (The first of them had the written T-SWISS-T on the dial)

OP6501 Mare Nostrum PAM 6-7-8 (398 of them came from the Officine Panerai Spa, Florence)

OP6502 Luminor (+ L. Marina) PAM 1-2/OOR-4-30-31-32-33
OP6503 Radiomir -Replica- 47mm PAM 21
OP6504/6750 Luminor Marina L. H. PAM 22-26/26 (S. E. 2008)
OP6505 Luminor Gmt PAM 29
OP6506 Luminor Marina PAM 3
OP6508 Luminor Power Reserve PAM 27
OP6510 Luminor Marina PAM 40 (Test 1999, 200 units)
OP6511 Luminor Marina PAM 37
OP6513 Luminor Marina Militare PAM 36
OP6515 Luminor Chrono 2000 40mm (+ Amg) PAM 45-105
OP6516 Radiomir Alarm Gmt 40mm PAM 46
OP6517 Radiomir Chrono Split-Second 40mm PAM 47
OP6518 Luminor Marina PAM 1
OP6519 Luminor + L. Marina (+ L. Marina "Fans Panerai Logo OP") PAM 4-55-195
OP6520 Luminor (+ L. Marina) PAM 1-2
OP6521 Luminor PAM 9
OP6522 Luminor Marina L. H. PAM 22
OP6523 Luminor Marina L. H. PAM 26
OP6524 Luminor Gmt PAM 63
OP6525 Luminor Power Reserve PAM 27
OP6526 Luminor Power Reserve PAM 28
OP6527 Luminor Submersible 300m PAM 24
OP6528 Luminor Submersible 300m PAM 25
OP6529 Luminor Marina 40mm (+ L. Marina "Montecarlo 2000") PAM 48-49-50-51-69-70-71-81-96
OP6531 Luminor Chrono 40mm (+ Flyback + Amg) PAM 52-60-72-74-108
OP6535 Luminor (+ L. Marina + L. Marina Militare "A. Vespucci") PAM 55-61/OOR-82-95
OP6537 Luminor Marina L. H. PAM 56
OP6538 Luminor Power Reserve PAM 57
OP6539 Luminor Gmt PAM 63
OP6540 Radiomir 40mm PAM 62-66-68-73-99-100-101-102-103
OP6541 Luminor Submersible 1000m PAM 64
OP6544 Radiomir Platinum 42mm PAM 65
OP6546 Luminor Blackseal PAM 76
OP6547 Radiomir Tourbillon PAM 77
OP6549 Radiomir Zerograph PAM 67
OP6553 Luminor Marina 44mm (+ L. Marina "Regatta 2001") PAM 86-91-104-107-140-180-209
OP6554 Luminor Gmt PAM 88-89
OP6558 Luminor Marina PAM 61
OP6559 Luminor Amagnetic-Arktos 44mm PAM 92 + Arktos Gmt 44mm PAM 186
OP6561 Luminor Submersible 300m (+ L. Submersible "Regatta 2004") PAM 24-25-106-199
OP6567 Luminor Marina ed. 2002, PAM 111-113
OP6568 Luminor ed. 2002 PAM 112-114
OP6569 Luminor Marina L. H. ed. 2002 PAM 115
OP6570 Luminor + L. Marina ed. 2002 PAM 116-117
OP6571 Luminor Marina L. H. ed. 2002 PAM 117
OP6572 Luminor Marina ed. 2002 PAM 118
OP6575 Luminor Power Reserve 40mm PAM 125-126
OP6576 Luminor 1950 47mm PAM 127
OP6577 Luminor Sealand for Purdey 44mm PAM 152-153-154-155-813-814-815-816-817-818
OP6580 Luminor Marina 40mm PAM 48-49-50-51-69-70-71-96
OP6584 Luminor Chrono 40mm "Regatta 2003" PAM 168
OP6587 Luminor Gmt 44mm "Regatta 2002" PAM 156
OP6591 Radiomir Chrono Split-Second 42mm PAM 147
OP6598 Luminor Marina Tantalium PAM 172
OP6603/6644 Radiomir Black Seal 45mm PAM 183
OP6604 Radiomir Gmt 42mm steel PAM 184
OP6605 Radiomir Gmt 42mm white gold PAM 185
OP6606 Luminor North Pole Gmt 44mm PAM 252
OP6607 Luminor Submersible Chrono 1000m 47mm PAM 187
OP6608 Luminor Chrono 40mm PAM 189
OP6609 Radiomir 8 Days steel-platinum 45mm PAM 190-198
OP6611 Luminor Chrono Tantalium 44mm PAM 192
OP6613 Luminor Submersible 2500m 47mm PAM 194
OP6614 Radiomir 8 Days rose gold 45mm PAM 197
OP6615 Radiomir 8 Days Platinum -Sincere- 45mm PAM 208
OP6616 Luminor "Logo OP" 44mm PAM 0
OP6617 Luminor Marina "Logo OP" + "Ferretti 1986-2006" 44mm PAM 5-248
OP6618 Radiomir Gmt 8 Days 45mm PAM 200-201
OP6623 Radiomir (Base) 45mm PAM 210
OP6624 Luminor 1950 8 Days + L. 1950 Marina Militare 47mm PAM 203-267
OP6635 Luminor Power Reserve "Regatta 2005" PAM 222
OP6636 Luminor Sealand for Purdey steel 44mm PAM 831-832-833
OP6637 Luminor Chrono Firenze 2005 44mm PAM 224
OP6638 Luminor Sealand Jules Verne 44mm PAM 216
OP6640 Luminor 1950 Chrono Flyback and Rattrapante "Regatta 2006" PAM 212-213-253
OP6643 Luminor Chrono 40mm PAM 215
OP6645 (Luminor) Marina Militare L. H. 47mm PAM 217
OP6647/6730 Luminor L. H. ed. 2005 PAM 219
OP6650 Luminor Chrono Submersible Slytech ed. 1000m 47mm PAM 202-225
OP6659 Radiomir 1938/OOR 47mm PAM 232
OP6660 Luminor 1950 Gmt 8 Days 44mm PAM 233-289
OP6673 Radiomir Chrono 1/8th Second 45mm PAM 246
OP6674 Radiomir (Base) "Ferretti 1986-2006" 45mm PAM 247
OP6675 Radiomir 1936 47mm PAM 249-262
OP6687 Luminor 1950 Gmt 10 Days, steel 44mm PAM 270-406-413
OP6699 Luminor Chrono “Regatta 2008†steel 44mm PAM 308
OP6708 Luminor 1950 Chrono Monopulsante steel 44mm PAM 275
OP6710 Luminor 1950 Chrono Monopulsante rose gold 44mm PAM 277
OP6714 Radiomir Black Seal aut. 45mm PAM 287
OP6716 Luminor 1950 8 Days Gmt rose gold 44mm PAM 289
OP6723 Radiomir Black Seal Ceramic 45mm PAM 292
OP6724 Luminor J Ti 44mm PAM 176
OP6725 Luminor Marina J Ti 44mm PAM 177
OP6726 Luminor J 44mm PAM 112
OP6727 Luminor + L. Marina J 44mm PAM 112-111
OP6728 Luminor "Logo OP" J + L. Marina - steel 44mm PAM 0-318
OP6729 Luminor Marina "Logo OP" J 44mm PAM 5
OP6731 Radiomir Mare Nostrum Chrono steel 52mm PAM 300
OP6734 Luminor 1950 3 Days Submersible titanium 47mm PAM 305
OP6737 Luminor 1950 Tourbillon Gmt titanium 47mm PAM 306
OP6738 Radiomir -Minerva- titanium 47mm PAM 309-322-349
OP6741 Luminor 1950 Chrono Monopulsante titanium 44mm PAM 311
OP6746 Luminor 1950 3 Days steel 44mm PAM 312-328-359
OP6747 Luminor 1950 Submersible Depth Gauge titanium 47mm PAM 307
OP6748 Radiomir Tourbillon Gmt platinum 48mm PAM 316
OP6750 Luminor Marina L. H. dlc steel 44mm PAM 26
OP6752 Luminor 1950 Chrono Monopulsante Ceramic 44mm PAM 317
OP6754 Luminor 1950 Chrono Rattrapante 8 Days rose gold 47mm PAM 319
OP6755 Luminor 1950 3 Days Gmt + L. 1950 3 Days Gmt Power Reserve 44mm steel PAM 320-329-347
OP6756 Luminor 1950 3 Days Gmt Power Reserve 44mm steel PAM 321
OP6773 Radiomir Tourbillon Gmt titanium 48mm PAM 315
OP6781 Luminor 1950 10 Days Gmt Ceramic 44mm PAM 335
OP6782 Radiomir Tourbillon Gmt rose gold 48mm PAM 330
OP6783 Luminor Power Reserve dlc steel 44mm PAM 28
OP6784 Luminor Submersible 2500m titanium 47mm PAM 285
OP6790 Radiomir Chrono 1/8th Second “Regatta 2010†titanium 47mm PAM 343
OP6791 Radiomir rose gold 42mm PAM 336
OP6792 Radiomir steel 42mm PAM 337
OP6793 Radiomir titanium 42mm PAM 338
OP6794 Luminor 1950 Chrono “Regatta 2009†dlc steel 44mm PAM 332
OP6795 Radiomir 8 Days -Egiziano- titanium 60mm PAM 341
OP6799 Luminor 1950 3 Days steel 44mm and titanium 44mm PAM 351-352
OP6800 Radiomir S.L.C. 3 Days steel 47mm PAM 425-449
OP6802 Luminor 1950 Chrono Monopulsante 8 Days rose gold 44mm PAM 344
OP6804 Radiomir 8 Days titanium 45mm PAM 346
OP6805 Radiomir 10 Days Gmt steel 47mm PAM 323
OP6806 Radiomir Marina Militare 8 Days Composite 47mm PAM 339
OP6807 Luminor Gmt steel 44mm PAM 29
OP6809 Radiomir Tourbillon Gmt -Lo Scienziato- Ceramic 48mm PAM 348-350
OP6812 Luminor -10th Paneristi- dlc steel 44mm PAM 360
OP6824 Luminor 1950 Chrono Flyback steel 44mm and Rattrapante steel 44mm PAM 361-362
OP6829 Luminor 1950 8 Days L. H. titanium 47mm PAM 368
OP6834 Luminor + L. Marina -S. E. Boutiques 2009/2014- steel 44mm PAM 366-367-390-404-411-412-414-415-418-419-420-428-430-432-434-452-453-454-455-456-457-459-460-461-462-463-464-465-466-468-470-539-540-541-542-543-544-545)
OP6835 Luminor 1950 3 Days steel PAM 372
OP6892 Luminor Marina 1950 3 Days steel 47mm PAM 422
OP6936 Radiomir 1940 steel 42mm PAM 512
OP6957 Radiomir 1940 3 Days Dlc steel 47mm PAM 532

 

[fire007]

that a lot of info... but thanks

 

[PolonusTM]

during preparation of reviews of both PAM 217 & 127 I found that both watches were sold in more pieces than 1950 (PAM 127) and 1000 (PAM 217). For each of these watches was certain number of additional Out Of Range sold separately.


They were engraved with OOR numbers only. For PAM 127 were 12 units while for PAM 217 - 11.


The engravings were like this one for PAM 127 - no letters etc, just OOR XX/12:

In case of PAM 217 numbers were looking almost the same style:

 

[PolonusTM]

You can read about it i.e. here (if the site will open for you; else use google translator and "show original" option):

http://www.philippinewatchclub.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=17833&start=10

 

[fire007]

interesting Info, many thanks Polo

 

[ALE7575]

Few words, but Polonus is right
Thanks

ALE

 

[svshawn]

Great job Polonus. Glad to be wrong on this one. Another great improvement for having a unique rep.

 

[czwatchshop]

So there are only 1950 watches made as rep?


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[mysterio]

So there are only 1950 watches made as rep?


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And you've been here for almost three years?

No, there aren't only 1950 watches made for this rep.

 

[czwatchshop]

And you've been here for almost three years?

No, there aren't only 1950 watches made for this rep.

Yes and i didnt seen "out of range" reps


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[vaetuning]

Hi there

looooong time lurker, first post!;-)
I've had a rather long and pleasant
mail conversation with Joshua over the
last few days!
As I'm getting married tomorrow, he
has helped me getting my hands on
an OOR Fiddy, and has told me, that
there will only be 40 of them in total!!
Effectively making them a little more
coveted!!

kind regards
Mads

 

[PolonusTM]

Hi there

looooong time lurker, first post!;-)
I've had a rather long and pleasant
mail conversation with Joshua over the
last few days!
As I'm getting married tomorrow, he
has helped me getting my hands on
an OOR Fiddy, and has told me, that
there will only be 40 of them in total!!
Effectively making them a little more
coveted!!

kind regards
Mads

Fine for you and all the best with your happy marriage

 

[vaetuning]

Thank you SO much!;-)

 

[Bozz]

Interesting thanks

 

[oshuwah]

So I've been using the search tool (yay me) to try to figure out is Perfect Clones is a reputable dealer, and if not where ELSE I can find an OOR PAM217. It looks like the consensus is I should not buy from Joshua as the prices tend to be higher and they drop ship watches sight unseen; however, I cannot find anyone else selling an OOR PAM217. I see other dealers are carrying the latest version of the PAM217 but I'll take the OOR version over the others if I can get it. Price is basically the same after shipping everywhere. Does anyone know any other sources for the 00R PAM217?

 

[ALE7575]

So I've been using the search tool (yay me) to try to figure out is Perfect Clones is a reputable dealer, and if not where ELSE I can find an OOR PAM217. It looks like the consensus is I should not buy from Joshua as the prices tend to be higher and they drop ship watches sight unseen; however, I cannot find anyone else selling an OOR PAM217. I see other dealers are carrying the latest version of the PAM217 but I'll take the OOR version over the others if I can get it. Price is basically the same after shipping everywhere. Does anyone know any other sources for the 00R PAM217?

At this moment only TT and PC have this watches
But ask your dealer with the TT or PC links about that model
Try to get it from Toro (don't forget the link)

ALE