Patek Philippe Ellipse

[Chee284868]

Looking around for an Ellipse I've heard that the only reps around for one were some shitters, so I asked a chinatime dealer if he still got contacts to get one.

Surprisingly he said yes, but he is asking 300$ a piece, which is quite ridiculous considering the stuff he usually deals.

He said that it's sapphire glass, SS, with a Cal 240 clone (do they actually exist?).

I guess he is just fucking around, but after some talking he sent some pictures.

The rep looks pretty off for that price range, but I wanted to hear your opinion about it.

 

[BIONONE]

It‘s better than what you got 5 years ago but still not there yet and far off from a comparable rep in that price range like you noticed.

The hands base is too thick - the 240 never came with a regular date display as far as i know - let alone the clone (introduced by PPF in their latest 5712 V2 release including moonphase, PR, date and small seconds).

It is a 9015 miyota which is slim, but not as slim as a micro rotor movement without its complications. Hence the thickness of the rep.

The case shape isn’t quite right - i think if you want to test out how a 3738 suits you it‘s worth a try.

Me pesonally wouldn’t pay more than 150$ for such a simple yet mediocre rep.

Going gen is the right thing with this reference

 

[Chee284868]

It‘s better than what you got 5 years ago but still not there yet and far off from a comparable rep in that price range like you noticed.

The hands base is too thick - the 240 never came with a regular date display as far as i know - let alone the clone (introduced by PPF in their latest 5712 V2 release including moonphase, PR, date and small seconds).

It is a 9015 miyota which is slim, but not as slim as a micro rotor movement without its complications. Hence the thickness of the rep.

The case shape isn’t quite right - i think if you want to test out how a 3738 suits you it‘s worth a try.

Me pesonally wouldn’t pay more than 150$ for such a simple yet mediocre rep.

Going gen is the right thing with this reference

Amazing reply, you've been pretty exhaustive on the situation, thank you!

 

[Horace_Derwent]

It‘s better than what you got 5 years ago but still not there yet and far off from a comparable rep in that price range like you noticed.

The hands base is too thick - the 240 never came with a regular date display as far as i know - let alone the clone (introduced by PPF in their latest 5712 V2 release including moonphase, PR, date and small seconds).

It is a 9015 miyota which is slim, but not as slim as a micro rotor movement without its complications. Hence the thickness of the rep.

The case shape isn’t quite right - i think if you want to test out how a 3738 suits you it‘s worth a try.

Me pesonally wouldn’t pay more than 150$ for such a simple yet mediocre rep.

Going gen is the right thing with this reference

Fantastic reply....i identified exactly which Rep we are talking about because i finally found it !

All your considerations are absolutely correct.

I would like to opne that caseback (of the Rep!) and see if there is a Clone PP Caliber 240 inside....or a naked 9015 !

 

[BIONONE]

Fantastic reply....i identified exactly which Rep we are talking about because i finally found it !

All your considerations are absolutely correct.

I would like to opne that caseback (of the Rep!) and see if there is a Clone PP Caliber 240 inside....or a naked 9015 !

It's most definitely a naked 9015 as only PPF/ZF has access to the 240 clone and even with their watches there is a movement shortage.

Those clones find their way only into the creme de la creme of reps as they are often developed to open up possibilities of the transplantation of gen parts into rep cases and vice versa. The Chinese franken market is roaring for the past 2 years and most recently because of 5712 rep cases with gen 240 movements taken from annual calendar moon phase calatravas etc.

long story short - this mediocre 3738 rep is not worth a 300$ clone movement. It's a fun rep to test out the waters but nothing else.