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Panerai Timeline (for Reference)

Mobius

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I'm not sure if this has been shared but I've found this useful and, if it's not out on the forum, then I figured it should be! Please feel free to add history to the timeline as needed. I think it will be beneficial to folks to get to know the brand and its development over time. (Mods: Can this maybe made into a sticky?) Thanks!
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Mobius

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To see a full image:

Open image in new tab, then left click the "down load image" button at bottom left of image in new screen, then click to open in new window or tab, click on image and it will maximize to where you can read it. :lol:
 

rolexwatchfan

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Really? That’s just a couple years after Sly officially started promoting them in public.
Seems like the strategy paid off :lol:

I mean, I remember buying my first Canal St. Daytona back in 1993...

Let me ask you this - did you know about Panerai back then?
You could've made pretty buck buying gen Panerai back then.....
 
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paulvillo

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Let me ask you this - did you know about Panerai back then?
You could've made pretty buck buying gen Panerai back then.....

I wish!
Weirdly I was only 15, and already wanted a gen Daytona :)
an el Primero was around 4K back then, and that would’ve been a nice investment as well!
 

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Love this info graphic, really really cool share! Thank you!

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Hazing

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A while ago I started off on trying to print these as a poster an frame it. I have a high resolution Pic of this for that exact reason. I'm going to repost it as it's not showing in tapa.

I'll also add a few other similar type time lines photos. Also one on Cortbert and Unitas movements, and one on Angelus movements.

There's an exploded view of the P5000 movement too.

These are just interesting Graphics which many of them I thought would be nice to print and hang. I also liked the patent drawings too.
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DrHack

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Any of you PAM experts know why the "California dial" is called that? It's kind of weird with the combo arabic/roman numerals, and we're kind of weird here in Cali, but I thought maybe there was a better explanation.
 

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Any of you PAM experts know why the "California dial" is called that? It's kind of weird with the combo arabic/roman numerals, and we're kind of weird here in Cali, but I thought maybe there was a better explanation.

nobody knows for sure but there is this story about Panerai watches with this specific dial selling very well in California.
It was made by Rolex and at the very beginning it was display/presentation dial.
 

Mobius

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Any of you PAM experts know why the "California dial" is called that? It's kind of weird with the combo arabic/roman numerals, and we're kind of weird here in Cali, but I thought maybe there was a better explanation.

Back in the 1930’s & 40’s when Panerai was cranking out for Rolex as well, a number of Rolexes were refurbished by a company based in California using this style of dial, resulting in the name "California dial".
 
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DrHack

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Back in the 1930’s & 40’s when Panerai was cranking out for Rolex as well, a number of Rolexes were refurbished by a company based in California using this style of dial, resulting in the name "California dial".

Interesting, thanks for the info!
 

paulvillo

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Back in the 1930’s & 40’s when Panerai was cranking out for Rolex as well, a number of Rolexes were refurbished by a company based in California using this style of dial, resulting in the name "California dial".

That’s some part of the story indeed.
According to my archive of old forum posts and trivia, the term only began to be used widely in the eighties, when a redial company based on California refinished a large numbers of Rolex Bubbleback dials in this design.

Rolex first started making watches with “California Dials” as early as 1934 with the Ref. 3595 bubble back watch, but would apply for a patent the half Roman and half Arabic in 1941. And it would be granted in 1942.

The patent says that the thicker numbers made applying luminous paint easier but nothing more about the reasoning for the two different numeral types.

Kirk Rich Dial has been around since 1926.
Possibly, they are and have been the oldest dial restoration business in the world ever since then.

Around the late 70's early 80's customers would ask them for the "California dial" when requesting a refinish. Basically it was because it was easier than saying "Roman Arabic" when describing the mixed number printing. Roman numerals on top with Arabic at bottom.
Kirk Rich Dials were pushing a lot of these, so much that people from all around would just ask for the California Dial when sending them work.

Then Ref. 3646 would be produced from 1938 until the 1950s with different design changes classified from Type A to Type G.

As we all know, decades later Panerai would begin remaking the Ref. 3646 with the Radiomir 1936 being released in 2011 and a several other remakes/re-editions that were incredibly repped by our beloved Chinese facs :)

Maybe our true connoisseurs could chime in and confirm my tales mysterio PolonusTM and ALE7575 (where are you mate :D)

Cheers!
 
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Mobius

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That’s some part of the story indeed.
According to my archive of old forum posts and trivia, the term only began to be used widely in the eighties, when a redial company based on California refinished a large numbers of Rolex Bubbleback dials in this design.

Rolex first started making watches with “California Dials” as early as 1934 with the Ref. 3595 bubble back watch, but would apply for a patent the half Roman and half Arabic in 1941. And it would be granted in 1942.

The patent says that the thicker numbers made applying luminous paint easier but nothing more about the reasoning for the two different numeral types.

Kirk Rich Dial has been around since 1926.
Possibly, they are and have been the oldest dial restoration business in the world ever since then.

Around the late 70's early 80's customers would ask them for the "California dial" when requesting a refinish. Basically it was because it was easier than saying "Roman Arabic" when describing the mixed number printing. Roman numerals on top with Arabic at bottom.
Kirk Rich Dials were pushing a lot of these, so much that people from all around would just ask for the California Dial when sending them work.

Then Ref. 3646 would be produced from 1938 until the 1950s with different design changes classified from Type A to Type G.

As we all know, decades later Panerai would begin remaking the Ref. 3646 with the Radiomir 1936 being released in 2011 and a several other remakes/re-editions that were incredibly repped by our beloved Chinese facs :)

Maybe our true connoisseurs could chime in and confirm my tales mysterio PolonusTM and ALE7575 (where are you mate :D)

Cheers!

Thanks for the deeper dig on that! I grabbed the info I found from a Panerai wiki I came across. Didn’t mention Kirk Rich etc.

This does make the whole picture come together well! Thanks for the great info!!!
 
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