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Panerai "Phantom" Project - still trying to finish it!!

Tommy Tom

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This idea came about at the beginning of last year when the gen B&R Phantom and PAM292 Ceramic came out.

I really wanted to have something like both of them but at the time there was nothing and it didn't look like there would be. Of course now you can get both reps and even Tritec make black lume, but in those heady days of 2007 this was the best I could do.

I bought a bog standard Radiomir and sent it off to Joe to have PVD'd. I also sent him parts of the 6497 mechanism to have PVD's as well, but unfortunately I couldn't afford it at the time - I wish i'd gone ahead and done it as thats whats stalled the project.

Once that was back from him. Fleed very kindly sent me a batch of his custom made dark lume - thanks Fleed!!!

I painted the hands and dial with the lume, then sprayed several very fine layers of matt acrylic paint over the top bit of the dial. This took many goes before the PANERAI RADIOMIR was the same colour as the lume or near enough. I am sure this is not the best way of doing this, but it's just too small to paint accurately with a brush and this was all I could come up with - it looks fine IMO, but I am sure there is a more professional way - any ideas?

The lug arms and caseback are also PVD'd and at the moment the mechanism is in pieces - each part which can be having been sprayed matt black ready to be put back together. If this works (and the 6497 looks AMAZING black - inspired by Tourby's soprod one) - i'll splash out and get one PVD'd. I've got my heart set on this watch having a black 6497 too!!

Not sure what strap to match this up to but that comes later. If i did it again, i think i'd have Kent at Everest do the luming work with Tritec black lume which will look a lot darker.

I guess if I had finished it a year ago before the phantom and the 292 reps - it might have been something quite special, but it's kind of lost it's impact now - my fault for putting it off for so long.

I'll post a wrist shot when it's finished, but would be interested to know what you all think so far.



 

robc_uk

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Having worn a Gen Phantom for a whole twenty minutes I can understand why you want to do this and Tom, can I say.....

WOW!!

You've got something special there.


Rob
 

chuddism

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That, is a beautiful watch and my inspiration for my first Project! :D
 

Tommy Tom

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Why oh why I didn't bite the bullet and buy one of these from Tourby for it when the price was pretty low, I'll never know

This is what I ideally saw as the powerhouse..oh well...

 

dadog13

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with that movement even some gen PAMs wouldn't look so attractive!

keep the project going ond and I'll keep my fingers crossed that Tourby has some simpathies towards you and sells this mvt for the last year price!
 

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wow ..very nice..i've thought about this too..but because the oil is increasing...but nooo lol
good luckk to you ..looks good :)
 

opustitevkajenja

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This looks absolutely stunning! The blue accents on the lume and blued screws on the pvd movement you're after look unbelieavable.
 

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Nice work Tom!

This is right up my alley, bug plain watches with a "subdued" look. very Swat like and stealth. The movement is a work of art in itself. Makes toy want to wear the watch inside out.


Great stuff....keep it goin!!!
 

old skool

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We think alike. I have long wanted a PVD 47mm rad case with PVD movement and all black lume, like a B&R stealth. In fact I was just talking to a modder about this very idea.

Those Tourby Soprods are soooo nice.

It will be one heck of a watch. If you don't mind, can you PM me? I would be interested in discussing your process in creating this bad boy.
 

Tommy Tom

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No, but I tried. It's a Davidsen sapphire and I experimented with tinted film, but because of the curve of the sapphire it just looks crap - it bubbles and you can't get rid of them. You can get sprays but im not sure they're any good. I also bought stick on two way mirror as I wanted light to go in but not come out again - give the lume a bit more chance to glow, but again - it just looked crap.

I've emailed Jakub so see if there is anything in his experience that would tint the outside and mirror the inside, so we'll wait and see. At the moment I just don't see how it's possible to get the numerals really really black while still glowing - if Tritec can't do it I don't think it's possible. Mine looks dark grey, especially the hands.

I suppose I could have a crystal specially made with a two way mirrored tinted effect, but i've literally only just come up with that and it sounds very complicated and expensive...still money has stopped being an object for this now - I just want to wear the bloody thing.

I've was told this week about a Phantom watch that Flavor Flav put together on RG and his lume looks black, but he says there is a special process involved with clear lume and airbrushing etc etc - a little out of my league. That was the look I was going for though.
 

old skool

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Yes Flav, has a phantom project.

Here is the picture he posted: (I hope this is OK to post here)
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chuddism

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Oh My God! Look at that watch!!

I could cry with desire and longing for that watch :shock:
 

Tommy Tom

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It's a mystery how he can get lume that dark to glow. It breaks the laws of physics to be honest. If Tritec can't do it I don't know how he can!!!