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Pam586 kw/v6f

dennis7899

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Has anyone experience with a PAM586? I've seen that more and more TD's are selling this piece.
It has the nice luminor 1950 case, is 44mm, has a sandwich dail and also a small second hand. So in my opinion it has all the qualities for a great Panerai.



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^ Two pictures of the GEN PAM586

A couple of pictures from the rep:

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The best thing on this piece might be the close case back, so there is no need for a movement that looks like a P.9000 and this can't give away that it's a rep.

On the gen, the text on the dail seems to match with the color of the lume. On the rep it looks a bit too yellow/white. I don't know why they have such a big problem with matching the colors. On the PAM312 from the KW/V6F it seems too dark, and here it is too light...
However, on ToroBravos the color seems way more correct!

Of course there is the 24 hour GMT function, but who will look at the watch for such an amount of time to notice that it is not a 12 hour GMT.

I'd like to hear the opinion of the rest

The links to the TD's for some more pictures:

Kuvarsit: http://www.kuvarsit-watch.com/kw-products/panerai/best-edition-pam-586-gmt.-p.9001-from-kw/
Toro: http://www.torobravos2014.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1420
PT: http://pure-time.com/product/pam586-q-brazil-v6f-best-edition-on-black-leather-strap-p9001/
 

ALE7575

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Knowing the quality of KW case and sandwich dial on PAM 359 and 312 and seeing the good lume and inscription colours in PAM 359. We can expect this KW-V6Fac PAM 586 will be a very good rep
Since it has closed caseback we will have the advantage of no visible movement

The main flaw of this watch would be the GMT 24hrs.

We can compensate the advantage of solid caseback with the flaw of GMT 24hrs and we would get a First Class rep bordering Super rep status

Bear in mind that without GMT this rep would be a clear Super rep

Nice watch and magnificent rep. Even the rep strap seems good

ALE
 

idinwo01

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Knowing the quality of KW case and sandwich dial on PAM 359 and 312 and seeing the good lume and inscription colours in PAM 359. We can expect this KW-V6Fac PAM 586 will be a very good rep
Since it has closed caseback we will have the advantage of no visible movement

The main flaw of this watch would be the GMT 24hrs.

We can compensate the advantage of solid caseback with the flaw of GMT 24hrs and we would get a First Class rep bordering Super rep status

Bear in mind that without GMT this rep would be a clear Super rep

Nice watch and magnificent rep. Even the rep strap seems good

ALE

So, if I'm understanding correctly:

The gen has a 12 hour GMT, and will rotate twice a day.

The rep has a 24 hour GMT, and will rotate once a day.
 

dennis7899

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Knowing the quality of KW case and sandwich dial on PAM 359 and 312 and seeing the good lume and inscription colours in PAM 359. We can expect this KW-V6Fac PAM 586 will be a very good rep
Since it has closed caseback we will have the advantage of no visible movement

The main flaw of this watch would be the GMT 24hrs.

We can compensate the advantage of solid caseback with the flaw of GMT 24hrs and we would get a First Class rep bordering Super rep status

Bear in mind that without GMT this rep would be a clear Super rep

Nice watch and magnificent rep. Even the rep strap seems good

ALE

So we are talking about a really good rep here, bordering a super rep status. I noticed the PAM312 is a super rep. On the 312 the color of the text on the dail is incorrect and the movement would also give away it is a replica watch. Would you consider those two flaws on the 312 less important than the GMT function on this 586?

Or are there more flaws on this watch that we still haven't noticed?


Dennis
 

ztealth

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So we are talking about a really good rep here, bordering a super rep status. I noticed the PAM312 is a super rep. On the 312 the color of the text on the dail is incorrect and the movement would also give away it is a replica watch. Would you consider those two flaws on the 312 less important than the GMT function on this 586?

Or are there more flaws on this watch that we still haven't noticed?


Dennis
Yeah kw pam 312 and many of their reps have inaccurate font colors but they seem to have improved on the 569. Now we gotta see if they did the same for this one.
 

HUGI

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I placed an order at puretime for the ZF Factory (I think) because I have a very special relation to Brazil so this is gonna be a souvenir of my time there to carry around :cool-new:

here the QC pics so you get an idea how it looks:





I dont know much about pam, but I am kindda not very happy with the caseback metall finish... seems kindda dirty. Will try to correct this.
 

HUGI

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I ordred a v6f, not a ZF...

ZF seems to have a better dial printing... at least on the pics of PT.


Any inputs on this watch in general?