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Pam292M H Factory, OP logo?

ahtiong

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Hi everyone, just wondering if 292m comes with the OP logo?

I have seen the photographs as well as the guide by ALE, all of which suggests no OP logo.

Would appreciate if someone could tell me if there is a variant with OP logo or not.

Many thanks in advance!
 

carlton

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292 never comes with OP logo, this look more like a 380 with a PVD/DLC case.
 

carlton

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From what i have know that dial is definitely not a 292, 292 have a sandwich dial and never have OP logo on the dial before. The only time they have something on 292 dial is the slc torpedo during J series.

That looks more like a 380 dial, as 380 is sausage dial with OP logo which is exactly the same with the one you have posted. But 380 only comes in stainless steel with OP logo engraved on close caseback.

From Ale Pam guide, you can also see that 292 does not have OP logo on dial, so this look like a 292+380 watch.

This is 292M from H-fac
http://v.yupoo.com/photos/trevorwatch/191813291/

This is 380 from H-fac
http://v.yupoo.com/photos/trevorwatch/191819648/
 

ahtiong

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Seems like i have unknowingly purchase a hybrid then :)

Just to add on, maybe ALE can update the guide :)
 

bclaud

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very nice fantasy watch! :) wear it in good health!
from the marriage of Pam380 and Pam292 results yours and another one like 183 (aprox) ... probably the factories are too stressed now with recent crackdowns.
 

ALE7575

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Seems like i have unknowingly purchase a hybrid then :)

Just to add on, maybe ALE can update the guide :)


I guess you are kidding:
The first condition to be in PAM GUIDE is not to be a fantasy watch.

Your watch at best is a DLC'd 380.

ALE
 

ahtiong

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I guess you are kidding:
The first condition to be in PAM GUIDE is not to be a fantasy watch.

Your watch at best is a DLC'd 380.

ALE

Hi ALE, i had actually purchased the watch based on your guide under pam292.

The link is http://www.timesshop.net/12372-pa7240b-pam292-m-h-factory-black-ceramic-casing-1-1-asian-6497.html

I was suggesting perhaps you could remove the link? :)

RWG has a discussion on this as well.
http://www.rwg.cc/topic/146972-pam380n-radiomir-blackseal-logo-custom-ceramic-292-case/
 

ahtiong

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very nice fantasy watch! :) wear it in good health!
from the marriage of Pam380 and Pam292 results yours and another one like 183 (aprox) ... probably the factories are too stressed now with recent crackdowns.

Hi bclaud, it does look nice.

The watch is displayed as it is on the timesshop website, so it was my mistake for not researching more on the dial.
 

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Hi ALE, i had actually purchased the watch based on your guide under pam292.

The link is http://www.timesshop.net/12372-pa7240b-pam292-m-h-factory-black-ceramic-casing-1-1-asian-6497

I was suggesting perhaps you could remove the link? :)

RWG has a discussion on this as well.
http://www.rwg.cc/topic/146972-pam380n-radiomir-blackseal-logo-custom-ceramic-292-case/

Dear ahtiong
I'm afraid you are right and the link was included in PAM GUIDE as a real PAM 292 from H maker. It is really from H maker but it is not an accurate PAM 292.
I have already removed this link because I have seen that it is a ceramic very good quality watch (H maker) but the dial is inaccurate becuase it is the 380 dial.
Therefore yo have a fantastic watch but with the wrong dial.

I'm very sorry for the Timeshops mistake, which has not indicated this change and announces this watch as a Hmaker PAM 292, and after for my mistake including it in the GUIDE
Please let's me know something that I could make for you.

Regards ands sorry again

ALE
 

ahtiong

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Hi ALE, just wanted to highlight this so that your guide can be more accurate.

There was wrong on my part too :)
 

ALE7575

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Hi ahtiong
It is my mistake too, not revising the link.
But please understand there are more than 2000 links in the GUIDE
Anyway the mistake of Timeshop is very serious announcing best version PAM 292 1:1
I will talk to Mark Timeshop
All is alrady corected in the GUIDE
And asap I will put a warning about this link
Sorry my friend
ALE
 

ahtiong

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I have emailed them on this and they replied "this is the factory design of replica Pam292.after all it is not the Genuine one." by Maggy.
 

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I have emailed them on this and they replied "this is the factory design of replica Pam292.after all it is not the Genuine one." by Maggy.

Does she know you're a member on this forum? Such a bad answer. We're all after the gen design, not the factory's interpretation. :lol:
 

ALE7575

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Hi friends
This is a sad story because ahtiong finally has not the replica he wanted.
Yes, he has a good ceramic watch H maker but the dial is not like the gen.

Really I thought to mail Mark to make a claim, but i will not be able to obtain nothing because there are no lies. He are indicating in his web the correct pics with the dial with logo, as many replicas in the market have no the same dial as the gen. IT IS INDICATED IN THE WEB, NO LIES. It is my mistake and the ahtiong mistake to not have seen that.
Threfore we can do nothing IMO.

ALE
 

ahtiong

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Unfortunately, you are right, ALE.

The most we can do is update your guide, which you already did :)
 

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Niek

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Cool ALE is beiing this humble and all. He must have spent weeks on all of those guides with thousands of links. A few more rep points for you ALE, thanks for all the effort.